Neon Enhanced plugin for PSX

opensourcefan

Would having the video smoothing true have a negative effect when neon is enabled? For some reason enabling neon makes scan lines visible with slightly more jagged text. I have smoothing set to true.

Drokkeh

@dankcushions Thanks. I did try that but still glitches. I turned the enhancements off and just enabled a decent shader so it looks decent now.

aardvark

@Drokkeh
ahh, i had the same problem and wondered why my screen was flashing!

BenWlson

@dankcushions said in Neon Enhanced plugin for PSX:

yeah been running this for a while. it's not the neon graphics plugin - that's always running. it's the 'enhanced resolution' and 'enhanced resolution speed hack' options for that plugin that we're talking about.

So which is it that we should be enabling? "enhanced resolution" or "neon"

In the wiki addition you made, you mention "neon".

dankcushions

@BenWlson its the two lines in the cfg mentioned in the wiki. they are options for the neon plugin, rather than the plugin itself.

Floob

Just checking this out - looks great on Wipeout 2097.
Just trying to work out if I should keep video_smooth on or off as well.

I think as this setting

pcsx_rearmed_neon_enhancement_enable = "enabled"
pcsx_rearmed_neon_enhancement_no_main = "enabled"

is stored in the core-options config you could tweak it in RGUI as opposed to only at the file directly.
Does anyone find it needs the speed hack on if you are using a Pi3? I guess I'll play around with some settings.

Twitch0815

I have not found it requires the speed hack, but I do have my gpu_freq at 525 and just general overclocking but I have not found any problems outside a few glitches in the obscure game or too.

Tao

Sorry for my noob question. But WHERE is that option really? I cant find it anywhere.

dankcushions

@Tao it's linked and stated several times in this thread: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Playstation-1#enhanced-graphics

dre3ed

I tried with Jacky chan stuntmaster, the gfx are considerably better. But even the pi 3 overclocked seems to crash and theres a lot of freezing.
I have not tried disabling the neon mod yet to see if that's the issue but Im guessing it is, as i have a pi 2 which runs the game perfect without the neon mod.

pitty, it really was better.

drake999

@Twitch0815 Hi. What exactly does the Neon Enhancement do? Does it get rid of that full screen dithering effect? If so count me in.

dankcushions

@drake999 explained here: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/118/neon-enhanced-plugin-for-psx/7 - not to do with dithering.

I tried with Jacky chan stuntmaster, the gfx are considerably better. But even the pi 3 overclocked seems to crash and theres a lot of freezing.

you must have some other issue, probably either not enough power, or an aggressive overclock. this shouldn't cause crashes or freezes or anything like that.

dre3ed

ok so i got a new power source it did not solve the problem.
But I have worked out why It has been freezing. It was the SD card !! **
So basically I took a different type of sd card from san disk and there you go.

Now the weird thing is, when i go into the retroarch.cfg settings to put the neon enhancements on theres nothing in the cfg file. only this

Settings made here will only override settings in the global retroarch.cfg if$

input_remapping_directory = "/opt/retropie/configs/psx/"

#include "/opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg"

dankcushions

@dre3ed said in Neon Enhanced plugin for PSX:

ok so i got a new power source it did not solve the problem.
But I have worked out why It has been freezing. It was the SD card !! **
So basically I took a different type of sd card from san disk and there you go.

Now the weird thing is, when i go into the retroarch.cfg settings to put the neon enhancements on theres nothing in the cfg file. only this

that's the wrong file. see the original post or docs. https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Playstation-1#enhanced-graphics

/opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch-core-options.cfg

dre3ed

Ok so really strange situation,
Reinstalled retropie, did not put the bios in. PS1 game works fine. no freezes.
As soon as i copy over the SCHP001.bin into bios and enhance the gfx it starts freezing and crashing.

pcsx_rearmed_neon_enhancement_enable = "disabled"
pcsx_rearmed_neon_enhancement_no_main = "enabled"

If I have them like this, I have no crashes anymore or freezes, but the quality has dropped.

I tried overclocking the gfx, that didint help. I can actually hear the sound struggling when I put the enhancement on, as if the cpu isnt good enough.

dankcushions

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dankcushions

sorry, misread. trying again:

@dre3ed said in Neon Enhanced plugin for PSX:

Ok so really strange situation,
Reinstalled retropie, did not put the bios in. PS1 game works fine. no freezes.
As soon as i copy over the SCHP001.bin into bios and enhance the gfx it starts freezing and crashing.

bios should be in uppercase, and be called SCPH1001.BIN. crashes are probably due to the issues i mentioned previously: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/68747

pcsx_rearmed_neon_enhancement_enable = "disabled"
pcsx_rearmed_neon_enhancement_no_main = "enabled"

If I have them like this, I have no crashes anymore or freezes, but the quality has dropped.

that's a pointless setting as you've disabled the enhancement, but enabled the speed hack for the enhancement. i don't even know what that would do.. probably nothing.

I tried overclocking the gfx, that didint help. I can actually hear the sound struggling when I put the enhancement on, as if the cpu isnt good enough.

overclocking GPU is pointless as pcsx is done purely on the the CPU. you're just adding more instability. i think your CPU is downclocking due to overheating, overclock or power - the same things that likely causing pi to crash it to crash.

dre3ed

I have heatsinks on every chip and a fan blowing on them plus an LCD display with temp monitor.
running between 36 and 46 degrees max. So its not that.

the bios upper case? when i go into the \RETROPIE folder the bios file is like this SCPH1001.bin isnt that uppercase?

I will now try and only overclock the cpu... cannot understand this is not working for me and working for others.

BuZz

@dre3ed said in Neon Enhanced plugin for PSX:

I have heatsinks on every chip and a fan blowing on them plus an LCD display with temp monitor.
running between 36 and 46 degrees max. So its not that.

PSU ?

the bios upper case? when i go into the \RETROPIE folder the bios file is like this SCPH1001.bin isnt that uppercase?

no - .bin is lowercase

dankcushions

@dre3ed

I have heatsinks on every chip and a fan blowing on them plus an LCD display with temp monitor.
running between 36 and 46 degrees max. So its not that

isn't what? an overclock doesn't have to be hot to be unstable. it just has to be overclocked. remove all overclocks if you have any instability.