OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility

[moonston333]

is there a video tutorial on this im not able to gert this working it goes straight back to the games list screen

[cyperghost]

@moonston333 This is all experimental if you need video as guide then stay away from doing those things. My advice... because it's possible you need to edit some files and do some manual changes. You can try the ready setted binaries from 6xxx Branch - follow instructions and you need a keyboard for first setup.

[cyperghost]

@darknior Here is a video TMNT-SS on a RPI3 not overclocked. It runs smooth with standard settings.

https://sendvid.com/gyofy39f

[darknior]

@cyperghost said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

@darknior Here is a video TMNT-SS on a RPI3 not overclocked. It runs smooth with standard settings.

https://sendvid.com/gyofy39f

It's incredible ... i remove all my Overclock settings and it change nothing, this game is slow for me :(
I can only play fine de demo level in town. If there is more than 2 enemies on screen the game slowdown.
I don't have this problem with any other game. Only this one !

[cyperghost]

@darknior So you say the video I posted can be considered as good gameplay? The video say it is 5853 alpha version. Maybe you have annother mod version in use?

[cyperghost]

@darknior I've one mod that will not run with 6315 - It's Street of Rage - Z it runs only on 3600

[BiZzAr721]

As I come across games not working in the latest build that do work in 3400 I will add them below:

• TMNT Red Sky Battle II v1.9

As I come across games that do work on latest I will add them here:

• Aliens vs Predator Aftermath
• Avengers United Battle Force
• Bad Ass Babes Episode one [Ver. 2.3.1]
• Battle Toads and Comix Zone (Demo)
• Battletoads Double Dragon - The Revenge v.8
• Bears (Demo)
• Beast & Blanka in Violent World
• He-Man
• Doom Ultra-Violence
• Double Dragon Evil Forces Expand (2017 test)
• Double Dragon Gold
• Dragon Ball Z - Attack of Saiyans
• Dragon Ball Z Tournament
• Dreams of Rage 1.3.1
• Enter the Double Dragon (Demo)
• Eternal Champions - The Thin Strings of Fate
• Evil Dead
• Final Fantasy VII - Hyper Rage
• Final Fight Gold Plus LNS v2.0
• GI Joe Attack on Cobra Island (updated)
• Gikotaku
• Hatchet Ninjaz [Ver. 3.0][v.3.0 Build 4086]
• Justice League United v2.176 (Recently Updated)
• Kill Bill
• Legend of Korr
• Martial Masters - New Legend
• Marvel First Alliance 2 v2.72
• Marvel Super Heroes - War of the Gems v1.3
• Marvel Infinity Wars v1.12 (Slow Loading)
• Maximum Carnage Returns (w/ Deadpool)
• Mega Man Armada v0.1.1
• MegaMan - Xtreme Legend
• MK Outworld Assassin [Widescreen]
• Neon Lightning Force
• Power Rangers - Beats of Power SE 2.0.1
• Rocko's Modern Game
• Rushing Beat
• Sega Brawlers Mega Mix v5.6 [ChronoCrash Version]
• Sega Brawlers Mega Mix v8.8
• Simpson's in Monster Mash
• Simpson's Treehouse of Horror
• Sonic Revolution v10.5
• Sonic-SatAM-Liberations-0.1.1
• Streets of Rage 2x v1.0
• Streets of Rage 2x v1.0 HACKED
• Streets of Rage 2x v1.4
• Super Universe Brawl 3.0
• Thundercats (Sidescroller)
• TMNT 8-bit (Recolored & Extended)
• TMNT & Battletoads
• TMNT Red Sky Battle (Final)
• TMNT Rescue-palooza 0.9.3
• TMNT Shell Shocked
• Urban Lockdown V1.1.1
• Vengeance of Kyo

Games that do not work on either version

• Asterix and Caesars Challenge (latest) [Crashes during gameplay]
• Dragons of Rage EX - CRASHES WHEN LEVEL LOADS `Script function

Script function 'getentityproperty' returned an exception, check the manual for details.
 parameters: #58215176, 24, 0, 0, 0, 0, 

• Final Fight and Cadillacs v1.0 [does not load]
• Final Fight meets Comix Zone and Battletoads [does not load] Read post 19 for more details
• Garou - Rage of the Wolves - CRASHES WHEN LEVEL LOADS

Script function 'getentityproperty' returned an exception, check the manual for details.
 parameters: #57648736, 24, 0, 0, 0, 0, 

• GI Joe (Final) [Crashes at game loading]
• Golden Axe Myth [does not load]
• HatchetNinjaz(2012-01) - CRASHES WHEN LEVEL LOADS
  
  The crashes with the below 'getentityproperty' error all happen when the above difficulty selection screen appears

Script function 'getentityproperty' returned an exception, check the manual for details.
 parameters: #54204736, 24, 0, 0, 0, 0,

[cyperghost]

@bizzar721 said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

TMNT Red Sky Battle (Final)

You should compare loading speed, the 3600 version needs endless in PAK loading
6315 is quick ...

[darknior]

@cyperghost said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

@darknior So you say the video I posted can be considered as good gameplay? The video say it is 5853 alpha version. Maybe you have annother mod version in use?

Really strange ... i use it too...
I use the last official Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Shell Shocked [Rev. 5853][v.3.0 Build 4394]

@cyperghost said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

@darknior I've one mod that will not run with 6315 - It's Street of Rage - Z it runs only on 3600

Same for me, with the 3400 not 3600 ;)

Thanks @BiZzAr721 for your help :)
I must really found today the time to put my little list online to show what i want to release, because OpenBOR is complicated, we must be very precise in the referencing of our games.
I have adopt the naming convention from the OpenBOR Collection, and add a CRC32 check to be sure to speak about the same game version PAK.

[BiZzAr721]

Updated List. Added Bad Ass Babes Episode one [Ver. 2.3.1].pak as working.
Also was trying to get golden axe Myth working and realized it was a .spk file. Seems OpenBOR build 3711 was the last to support .spk. "Spk support was close-sourced and was once developed and compiled by SX back in lavalit"

I found Bare Knuckle VI [v.3.0 Build 3679][China].spk which I was hoping may work as well. I was trying to load OpenBOR-3400 to stock mod selection screen to see if it will load a .spkbut I only get a black screen when trying to get to OpenBOR selection.

I have deleted and reinstalled both versions so many times testing out @cyperghost 's scripts and compiles that I only had the 6xxx version right now. I d/l the 3400, copied it to /opt/retropie/ports/openbor and ran a script containing cd /opt/retropie/ports/openbor; ./OpenBOR_3400_pak . I though that would be the most direct way to load it, but I get just a black screen I cannot exit from. (properties are set correctly)

What is the best way to load the build directly?

[cyperghost]

@bizzar721 The best way is to edit emulator.cfg with nano /opt/retropie/configs/ports/openbor/emulator.cfg

Do something like this:

ob_3400 = "pushd /opt/retropie/ports/openbor; /opt/retropie/ports/openbor/OpenBOR %ROM%; popd"
ob_6xxx = "pushd /home/pi/openbor_openbeta; /home/pi/openbor_openbeta/OpenBOR %ROM%; popd"
default = "ob_6xxx"

Just change the pathes like you need them.

Then you load a mod and can switch the OpenBOR version via runcommand menu. You know .... grey box and hit the "ANY"-key ;)

Command explain:
pushd, sets the directory in path as current working dir.
popd, unsets directory setted with pushd and so you return to dir you called command

About the 3400 version, this needs dependencies based on SDL1-framework. The best way would be to install openbor usually from RetroPie, let compile the old version.... and then just exchange OpenBOR binary ;)

[BiZzAr721]

@cyperghost emulator.cfg I understand. Thats exactly how I have been using it before I wiped it all to test the scripts. I plan on wiping OpenBOR again as more testing is needed, so I just wanted to open the 3400 build as direct as possible - without even loading a .pak. Simillar to executing OpenBOR.exefrom a dos command prompt. I don't mind opening it directly through terminal as an executable. I just want to do some quick testing.

[cyperghost]

@bizzar721 PAK file without sending filename to binary will load if there is just one PAK-file in folder. But there is likely no difference in using CLI via ES or the graphical menu OpenBOR offers itself. I modified code so I know what is happening ;)

[darknior]

@bizzar721 said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

Also was trying to get golden axe Myth working and realized it was a .spk file.

I have same problem than you some years ago ... :(
This game seem to be fantastic but nobody can play it on new OpenBOR engine from many years because they protect it :(
A very bad idea, to protect they're sprite if i understand fine ...
And nobody never crack it to make a free version for every one :(
Maybe we must try to ask the original author by mail ? I don't try it for the moment ... but now the game is old and maybe they will give it in PAK version ? We must to try :p

I have post a message on his Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/goldenaxemyth/

[BiZzAr721]

@cyperghost I know when you first released pak support, if I loaded a script that pointed to a .bor instead of .pak it would automatically open the OpenBOR menu selection (I still use individual scripts pointed to a game). It's not that much of a big deal. It works fine loading directly. I only wanted to load the menu selection to see if it listed golden axe myth.spk, and if it played. From what I've found, .spk was supported until OpenBOR build 3711, and we have 3400, so there was a chance it would play. I am able to play it on PC using [v.3.0 Build 3342] which was included with the mod. Golden Axe myth is the fan created prequel to Golden Axe.

Bare Knuckle VI [v.3.0 Build 3679][China] is also a .spk and plays well on PC. No need to waste any more time on this. I expected it to be a quick and simple thing. Just glad there's not many games in .spk format!

[darknior]

@bizzar721 said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

golden axe myth.spk, and if it played. From what I've found, .spk was supported until OpenBOR build 3711, and we have 3400, so there was a chance it would play. I am able to play it on PC using [v.3.0 Build 3342]

If i understand fine when i search to play this game some years ago, they don't distribute the source code of the protection!
To prevent any one break the protection ... we can't have this source code, 3342 with SPK support, and we can never play it on PI.
The only solution was the original author give his game in PAK format :(
Or you found a very strong hacker that have time to lost to crack this protection system :( I'm sure it is not complicated, maybe only an archive (PAK is like a RAR or a ZIP file) with a password ... but i don't know how to crack it myself :(

[BiZzAr721]

I have more new mods added to my list. All for newest version of OpenBOR. Some pretty good ones in there. I tried to find the most recent versions available.
EDIT - more info on Final Fight meets Comix Zone and Battletoads

I tried finding an alternate version of Final Fight meets Comix Zone and Battletoads mod.
The one I downloaded was from a site in chinese. There were 3 versions available - I downloaded the one called Final Fight Battletoads.
It was packaged with a data folder and empty bor.pak. I created a pack of the data folder. I recieved 2 errors when packing files:
data\bgs\sew\bez?na~1
data\chars\misc2\blood\??bl~1

I removed invalid characters from the files, and was able to create the .pak. Did a mass search using Notepad ++ for anything related to those files & directories. I couldn't find any files linking to those 2 files.
When I tried the game, I actually got the loading screen, then it crashed! Below is the error in log:

Loaded 'Boxer' from data/chars/Boxer/Boxer.txt 
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/die2.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/hpain.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/hpain.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/wubba.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/hp.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/hpain.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/hpain.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/hpain.wav'!
sound_load_sample can't load sample from file 'data/sounds/wbbawbba.wav'!
Can't find openbor constant 'AIMOVE2_AVOID' 

Script compile error in 'Boxer': openborconstant line 15, column 81

********** An Error Occurred **********
*            Shutting Down            *

Can't compile script 'Boxer' data/chars/Boxer/Boxer.txt

I wasn't able to make any more progress. I was just going to leave it as not working but figured I might as well post my findings for anyone else who has the desire to get this mod working. Who knows, it may be as simple as changing a line.

[darknior]

@bizzar721 WOAW excellent, thanks a lot for these test, i must add them to my list ...
So many work with it too ... i made my list here if you want to work on it with me please ...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h2c9Aa_s6rGUejR0AiZgx29byNBWBReW5PK30bZcago/edit?usp=sharing

I let users to comment, make me a request with mail i will add you to work on it.
On my list i add many info and one really important if we want speak about the same game versions : THE CRC !
And i name them with a long name with game version, and OpenBOR version.
It's easy to find the OpenBOR game version when it comme with OpenBOR EXE, in the LOG file there is the build date, and with it on Chronocrash you have the build number.

Some games title are red because there are crappy games, or double games and i don't take them for my collection.
I began to work on MEDIA of this best of collection first set, and it's very long ... nothing existing ... i must create all by myself :p

Exemple :

All the TEXT informations, and LOGO and SCREENSHOT and TITLESHOT and VIDEO preview :p

Like you i try to make working some rare games, and hard to find ...
But i don't have Final Fight meets Comix Zone and Battletoads ... i'm really interested by it :)
Maybe i can try to repair it ?

I have work on Streest of Rage - Zombie [ver. 2.1 2017][v.3.0 Build 4153] and make it working in PAK file.
And remove some files like you ...
And i have add new one, i create a title screen because the author miss it ... he like it and will use it in next version <3

[BiZzAr721]

Nice artwork. I'll see what I can dig up to help. I will add some to your list. I repacked all mods from my original list - I don't know if any changes were made when used from .bor folder that will affect CRC. Also, I edited a text file in TMNT: Red Sky Battle to have Casey Jones as a Selectable character, so that will surely have a different CRC.
I have been renaming all newer mods with full name/version as well the best I could. I have not been checking what version of OpenBOR is being used.

All mods listed in my original list I pulled from my HyperSpin hard drive. The naming of those packs is all I have to go on. I remember painstakingly going through and manually renaming the `.paks' the name of the folder they were in. Many didn't have a version number. I can at least see if the CRC matches what you have.

This Youtube channel has a lot of OpenBOR reviews/playthroughs
The Ruivo

The Ruvio Blog [OpenBOR]

There is a FINAL FIGHT AND CADILLACS AND DINOSAURS OPENBOR EDITION mod that didn't work that I think may be worth digging into as well (which I saw you are already aware of).

[darknior]

@bizzar721 said in OpenBOR 3400 & 6315 game list compatibility:

Nice artwork.

Thanks :)

I'll see what I can dig up to help. I will add some to your list. I repacked all mods from my original list - I don't know if any changes were made when used from .bor folder that will affect CRC. Also, I edited a text file in TMNT: Red Sky Battle to have Casey Jones as a Selectable character, so that will surely have a different CRC.

Maybe repacked mods will not change CRC, but only if you don't modify any fine.
If you edit a file to add a character the CRC is different, and it's cool because it is not the same game ;)
On TMNT Red Sky for me the problem was they change a 16/9 game in 4/3 ... so bad :(

I have been renaming all newer mods with full name/version as well the best I could. I have not been checking what version of OpenBOR is being used.

Ok thanks, it will help, the game version is really important, because all versions a re not working fine with last OpenBOR engine.

Yes i also use "The Ruvio" blog for the last games informations :)

Yes i will try to find a solution for FF & Cadillacs and Dinosaures because i want to play it too :p