retropie for the PI4 ????
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It's a sad truth that many people who behave badly to others can't take the headwind they get for it with dignity themselves.
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@mitu Thank you. I was curious what the workload was of a hobby this magnitude. It is mind-blowing that you all have to support so many applications on some level of Retropie.
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The current situation (manual installation required for the Pi 4) almost works like a filter against lazy blokes. I kinda like it!
I think it's time for this topic to be deleted...
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@matchaman Maybe closed, but I wouldn't want it to be deleted, since it documents how some people behave against voluntary developers, and that many long-time users don't agree with any of that. 👍
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@matchaman said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
It's easier than you think
You can install Raspbian Lite and RetroPie manually on the Pi 4. It works great for RetroArch cores but not that well for stand-alone emulators.
More info here: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Manual-Installation
Note that it's not officially supported, use at your own risk and feel free to experiment.
Once everything becomes functional and the whole build is considered stable, there will be an official release.
It's not entirely up to RetroPie developers, it's more of a global set of things that need to become compatible with (and take advantage of) the new hardware.
[semi of topic] Retropie not supported if you install via the (official?) script? I believe you, but I do not read that on the site you refer to. I might be mistaken, but I thought that the script was no different than the SD card image. I like the "manual" install way better because that way you have regular Rasbian too on your Pi which makes problem solving on the Pi way easier. Especially if you're used to using Linux, like me.
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@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
I like the "manual" install way better because that way you have regular Rasbian too on your Pi which makes problem solving on the Pi way easier. Especially if you're used to using Linux, like me.
Funnily, It's the other around with me. I'm a Linux user since 2006 and I like to control Retropie remotely only by ssh – either via shell commands or with graphical tools using the fish protocol. Even with ssh encryption, fish is much faster than Samba for file access.
A desktop environment on my Pi would be unnecessary system load for me. But everyone's preferences are "right" for them in this matter, and one big strength of Linux is it's versatility from text consoles to 3D desktop effects (which I love my KDE Plasma desktop for). 😎
That said, I did install Retropie manually on my desktop PC and my Laptop running Kubuntu and KDE Neon, respectively.
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@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
[semi of topic] Retropie not supported if you install via the (official?) script? I believe you, but I do not read that on the site you refer to. I might be mistaken, but I thought that the script was no different than the SD card image. I like the "manual" install way better because that way you have regular Rasbian too on your Pi which makes problem solving on the Pi way easier. Especially if you're used to using Linux, like me.
if you install retropie via the instructions in the link to install to a pi4, you won't install the WIP raspberry pi 4 branch, you'll install the regular master branch and it won't work. the WIP pi 4 branch is the one you want, so yeah it's not "official" in so far as it hasn't been merged to the master branch yet.
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@Clyde said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
I like the "manual" install way better because that way you have regular Rasbian too on your Pi which makes problem solving on the Pi way easier. Especially if you're used to using Linux, like me.
Funnily, It's the other around with me. I'm a Linux user since 2006 and I like to control Retropie remotely only by ssh – either via shell commands or with graphical tools using the fish protocol. Even with ssh encryption, it is much faster than Samba for file access.
A desktop environment on my Pi would be unnecessary system load for me. But everyone's preferences are "right" for them in this matter, and one big strength of Linux is it's versatility from text consoles to 3D desktop effects (which I love my KDE Plasma desktop for). 😎
That said, I did install Retropie manually on my desktop PC and my Laptop running Kubuntu and KDE Neon, respectively.
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[off topic] Aha, that's why. I too do most Retropie troubleshooting via SSH. And I (almost) never run a GUI on my Pi (it's a 1B+, ha ha). What I meant is something different. Sometimes you do not have a second computer around to troubleshoot the Pi. I love my Pi so much that I take it with me to my (young) nephews to watch movies (I use an SD card w/ Kodi then). And sometimes I play classic games w/ my nephews. I'm (almost) 50, they are between 9 and 15. They love 'Combat' on the Atari! And 'Ms. Pac Man' and 'Donkey Kong' never get old.
Anyway, to troubleshoot Bluetooth connections etc. I like to escape to the command line by pressing F4 in Emulationstation. In cases of a real emergency I can even start a GUI (desktop environment) and surf the web for solutions.
As of writing this I don't know if the SD image of Retropie also escapes to "regular" Raspbian after pressing F4. It might though...
[on topic] Never realized that the Pi4 requires so much programming to get Retropie to work on it! Didn't realize that the graphical hardware is so different. Keep up the good work. I think that some people don't realize that Retropie is a "hobby" project by people in their free time, as opposed to free OS-es like Ubuntu. Ubuntu is made by a large paid team of professionals if I'm not mistaken. It's also free which might be the reason why people expect so much of Retropie. Retropie looks too good and professional to be made by hobbyists, now doesn't it? ;)
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@dankcushions said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
[semi of topic] Retropie not supported if you install via the (official?) script? I believe you, but I do not read that on the site you refer to. I might be mistaken, but I thought that the script was no different than the SD card image. I like the "manual" install way better because that way you have regular Rasbian too on your Pi which makes problem solving on the Pi way easier. Especially if you're used to using Linux, like me.
if you install retropie via the instructions in the link to install to a pi4, you won't install the WIP raspberry pi 4 branch, you'll install the regular master branch and it won't work. the WIP pi 4 branch is the one you want, so yeah it's not "official" in so far as it hasn't been merged to the master branch yet.
Thank you for clearing that up. But if you use the script in that link to install Retropie in Raspbian on a Pi 1, 2 or 3 is it supported then?
Avid Linux user.
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@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
As of writing this I don't know if the SD image of Retropie also escapes to "regular" Raspbian after pressing F4. It might though...
It's the same - there's no difference - it's the same Emulationstation version included in both. The image it's created from a stock Raspbian Lite installation image.
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@mitu said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
As of writing this I don't know if the SD image of Retropie also escapes to "regular" Raspbian after pressing F4. It might though...
It's the same - there's no difference - it's the same Emulationstation version included in both. The image it's created from a stock Raspbian Lite installation image.
Thank you for clearing that up. :)
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@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
Thank you for clearing that up. But if you use the script in that link to install Retropie in Raspbian on a Pi 1, 2 or 3 is it supported then?
sure! i believe you'll pretty much end up with the same (exactly?) as the image if you follow the complete instructions.
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@dankcushions said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
@Meneer-Jansen said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
Thank you for clearing that up. But if you use the script in that link to install Retropie in Raspbian on a Pi 1, 2 or 3 is it supported then?
sure! i believe you'll pretty much end up with the same (exactly?) as the image if you follow the complete instructions.
Again, thanks for clearing that up. I'l keep using the "manual" method then. :)
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@dankcushions
As someone with nearly zero Linux understanding I'd much rather wait for the "official" release. I've heard and seen working versions on some Pi4s but I'm pretty sure I'd never get it working.Until then I can still thank the developers for outstanding work. How else can one play Guardian Legend on an NES emulator on a 55 inch 4K TV with an Xbox One Elite controller and save state my way through the game to save hours of frustration?
Patience will allow one to play Dragon Force on a Saturn emulator with the Xbox One Elite controller, as well.
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@matchaman said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
I think it's time for this topic to be deleted...
No no ... This topic is epic.
It gives an interesting view of peopels attitude -
@cyperghost It also, unfortunately, shows how entitled some people believe they are. Nothing is more annoying, off-putting and disgusting than the, "I can't do this so hurry up and do it for me" mentality.
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@ultrakev9 That's why "I will not fix your computer" t-shirts exist. ;)
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@Clyde I have that shirt...
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@Clyde said in retropie for the PI4 ????:
@ultrakev9 That's why "I will not fix your computer" t-shirts exist. ;)
[sorry for the off-topic] It's why I switched to Linux. Seriously!
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@ultrakev9 But you're forgetting that Retropie is an open source project taken on by volunteers providing software for non-commercial use for the sole purpose of making money on Etsy and Amazon.
Wait, that doesn't sound right 🤔
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