Mortal Kombat Plus+ Compatibility
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@barbudreadmon thank you for the tip, I was able to find working files to try on my Pi3B+. These games run on FBNeo, but super slow. So, I am hoping that when I move over to Pi4, these games will be fully functional. I will report back when I get that up and running. If these work properly on a Pi4, man will I be stoked!
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@GreenHawk84 spoiler alert: They both run great (full speed with lots of cycles to spare) on a Pi4B using lr-fbneo.
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@roslof STOKED!
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@roslof right now I have my Pi4 running for the first time with MK2 Plus and UMK3 Plus. The performance is pretty good, but something is off. It sounds a little fast. Not sure if this is how FBNeo is currently handling the ROMs. Seems promising so far, but Mame2016 will not run these files as they are. Perhaps I'll have to experiment to see if any Mame cores can get it going.
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Upon further testing, it appears FBNeo plays MK games in general inaccurately, not just MK Plus. I loaded up lr-mame2016 on Pi4 and played regular MK2 and UMK3, they performed WAY better than FBNeo, both sound accuracy and fluidity. This seems promising to me then because perhaps MK Plus can run just fine in lr-mame2016 with a Pi4.
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@GreenHawk84 said in Mortal Kombat Plus+ Compatibility:
FBNeo plays MK games in general inaccurately
Yes, it has been mentioned a few times, and i think mame2003 and mame2010 got their own issues on those games. You need a recent version of mame to play those games accurately.
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The guys over at MK Plus are interested in getting it going on lr-mame2016. I will update this thread if I find they updated the core to support it. Right now they have an updated Mame2010 core that can be used in Retropie but I am not sure how to compile an alternate core and replace the lr-mame2010 build available. Can that copy of lr-mame2010 be added to the list?
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Did you get this running I patched mk2 and umk3 ROMs from 2003,2010 and 2016 romsets and I got nada
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@gorgar19 not sure your source but I do have working roms of MK2+ and UMK3+ that work [inaccurately] on FBNeo. I also downloaded their official patch files at the MK Plus website and their custom Mame core and was able to get it running on my desktop PC. I do not believe anything that comes vanilla on Retropie aside FBNeo will work right now. As I said regular original MK2/UMK3 roms work fine on Mame2016 with a Pi4. The MK Plus team does NOT provide the parent Mortal Kombat roms.
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@GreenHawk84 said in Mortal Kombat Plus+ Compatibility:
sound accuracy
Could you elaborate on this ? I don't hear any sound issue in FBNeo, if anything i prefer MK games's sound in FBNeo because i don't have to go into service menu to up the volume at first boot.
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@barbudreadmon the sound for MK2 and MK3 in FBNeo was a little faster than normal. I can just hear the difference between Mame and FBNeo. It sounded "off."
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@GreenHawk84 hmm i'm not sure it's faster, it feels faster but i was comparing with the following pcb video and everything seemed in sync.
However i agree the music sounds different in FBNeo, maybe something about the balance.
Edit : no, the sound is slightly faster indeed
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@barbudreadmon said in Mortal Kombat Plus+ Compatibility:
Edit : no, the sound is slightly faster indeed
Is there a way to improve this core compatibility?
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@GreenHawk84 said in Mortal Kombat Plus+ Compatibility:
Is there a way to improve this core compatibility?
zxmarcos, the author of those FB drivers, has started working on them again recently (hence why the frame dupe issue was fixed), afaik he is currently working on improving his tms34010 cpu interpreter used in those games.
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Just an update on this, I have not seen anything come from the MK Plus team in terms of Retropie/Mame2016 compatibility. I know Mame2016 runs MK2 and UMK3 very very good on my Pi4, so it's just a matter of adding support. I really hope it happens, I'm even willing to throw a donation at it.
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@GreenHawk84 said in Mortal Kombat Plus+ Compatibility:
@gorgar19 not sure your source but I do have working roms of MK2+ and UMK3+ that work [inaccurately] on FBNeo. I also downloaded their official patch files at the MK Plus website and their custom Mame core and was able to get it running on my desktop PC. I do not believe anything that comes vanilla on Retropie aside FBNeo will work right now. As I said regular original MK2/UMK3 roms work fine on Mame2016 with a Pi4. The MK Plus team does NOT provide the parent Mortal Kombat roms.
if they upload the source code for their mame fork then it can potentially be included in retropie. or if they can provide the MAME patch then we can see the changes and maybe backport them to 2016.
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They are already supported in mame2003-plus and have been for a while. FBNeo as well.
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@zerojay true but Mame2016 is superior than both of those cores for this game.
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@GreenHawk84 Superior how?
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@zerojay I know FBNeo got some inaccuracies on mk2 (the audio sync is slightly wrong, and iirc some frames are glitched in intro), iirc mame2003 got its own issues with mk2 (was it missing shadows ? i don't remember exactly). If there are other issues on FBNeo with mk games, i'm unaware of them.
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