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      Folly @AdamBeGood
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      @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
      Looks great.
      Good graphics, good sound.

      You have to work in this directory if you want to edit setting.xml :
      /home/pi/.openMSX/share/
      Try something there ;-)

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        Folly
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        @Zering

        Otoku Dama : Did you have any luck with the beatiful MUSIC ?

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          Zering @Folly
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          @folly Not yet, following your instructions I edited autoexec.bat and restarted the game, but no music. Pretty sure I did something wrong. I haven't really looked into it yet though, I made the mistake of installing iortcw and since then I'm on a FPS bender, learning to play with keyboard and mouse, and shockingly, loving it.

          I'll try again tonight or in the morning and let you know.

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            Folly @Zering
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            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @folly Not yet, following your instructions I edited autoexec.bat and restarted the game, but no music. Pretty sure I did something wrong. I haven't really looked into it yet though, I made the mistake of installing iortcw and since then I'm on a FPS bender, learning to play with keyboard and mouse, and shockingly, loving it.

            I'll try again tonight or in the morning and let you know.

            good luck!

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              AdamBeGood @Folly
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              @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

              @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
              Looks great.
              Good graphics, good sound.

              You have to work in this directory if you want to edit setting.xml :
              /home/pi/.openMSX/share/
              Try something there ;-)

              That's the location! And setting Scaler to 2x works there. So weird it doesn't work in OpenMSX directly though.

              I don't think I've got the inclination to work out individual game configs, but maybe I'll have a Google and work out how to do it. Would be nice if they just opened and ran.

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                AdamBeGood @Zering
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                @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @folly Not yet, following your instructions I edited autoexec.bat and restarted the game, but no music. Pretty sure I did something wrong. I haven't really looked into it yet though, I made the mistake of installing iortcw and since then I'm on a FPS bender, learning to play with keyboard and mouse, and shockingly, loving it.

                I'll try again tonight or in the morning and let you know.

                Hahaha keyboard and mouse convert! It is good stuff!

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                  Folly @AdamBeGood
                  last edited by Folly

                  @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
                  Looks great.
                  Good graphics, good sound.

                  You have to work in this directory if you want to edit setting.xml :
                  /home/pi/.openMSX/share/
                  Try something there ;-)

                  That's the location! And setting Scaler to 2x works there. So weird it doesn't work in OpenMSX directly though.

                  I don't think I've got the inclination to work out individual game configs, but maybe I'll have a Google and work out how to do it. Would be nice if they just opened and ran.

                  There seem to be possibilities. Perhaps you can make a config for 1 game and start that. A lot of information on : openmsx.org

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                    AdamBeGood @Folly
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                    @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
                    Looks great.
                    Good graphics, good sound.

                    You have to work in this directory if you want to edit setting.xml :
                    /home/pi/.openMSX/share/
                    Try something there ;-)

                    That's the location! And setting Scaler to 2x works there. So weird it doesn't work in OpenMSX directly though.

                    I don't think I've got the inclination to work out individual game configs, but maybe I'll have a Google and work out how to do it. Would be nice if they just opened and ran.

                    There seem to be possibilities. Perhaps you can make a config for 1 game and start that. A lot of information on : openmsx.org

                    Bedtime reading I think!

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                      Folly @AdamBeGood
                      last edited by Folly

                      @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
                      Looks great.
                      Good graphics, good sound.

                      You have to work in this directory if you want to edit setting.xml :
                      /home/pi/.openMSX/share/
                      Try something there ;-)

                      That's the location! And setting Scaler to 2x works there. So weird it doesn't work in OpenMSX directly though.

                      I don't think I've got the inclination to work out individual game configs, but maybe I'll have a Google and work out how to do it. Would be nice if they just opened and ran.

                      There seem to be possibilities. Perhaps you can make a config for 1 game and start that. A lot of information on : openmsx.org

                      Bedtime reading I think!

                      Indeed,it's not that simple.
                      Was a bit curious if I could find something.

                      Perhaps the best option is to add it in the commandline in :
                      /opt/retropie/configs/msx/emulators.cfg
                      openmsx = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx -machine turbor -ext video9000 -exta Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge %ROM%"
                      Here are the possibe extensions :
                      /opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/share/extensions/
                      Use the filesname !
                      More extensions are possible : -extb -extc -extd

                      Also I think you can actually make a machine with the extensions. (more difficult)
                      If you have a machine of your interest just copy that one, if it exists, from :
                      /opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/share/machines (because from this directory you can only edit files as "super user")
                      to :
                      /home/pi/.openMSX/share/machines (here you can edited files as "pi user")
                      OpenMSX will see your added machine.
                      Just change the name in the xml, for example "Panasonic + V9000" so you will find it.
                      Now you should be able to add extensions in the xml.
                      https://openmsx.org/manual/setup.html#hardwareedit (8. Writing Hardware Descriptions)

                      Let me know if something works for you.

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                        AdamBeGood @Folly
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                        @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
                        Looks great.
                        Good graphics, good sound.

                        You have to work in this directory if you want to edit setting.xml :
                        /home/pi/.openMSX/share/
                        Try something there ;-)

                        That's the location! And setting Scaler to 2x works there. So weird it doesn't work in OpenMSX directly though.

                        I don't think I've got the inclination to work out individual game configs, but maybe I'll have a Google and work out how to do it. Would be nice if they just opened and ran.

                        There seem to be possibilities. Perhaps you can make a config for 1 game and start that. A lot of information on : openmsx.org

                        Bedtime reading I think!

                        Indeed,it's not that simple.
                        Was a bit curious if I could find something.

                        Perhaps the best option is to add it in the commandline in :
                        /opt/retropie/configs/msx/emulators.cfg
                        openmsx = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx -machine turbor -ext video9000 -exta Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge %ROM%"
                        Here are the possibe extensions :
                        /opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/share/extensions/
                        Use the filesname !
                        More extensions are possible : -extb -extc -extd

                        Also I think you can actually make a machine with the extensions. (more difficult)
                        If you have a machine of your interest just copy that one, if it exists, from :
                        /opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/share/machines (because from this directory you can only edit files as "super user")
                        to :
                        /home/pi/.openMSX/share/machines (here you can edited files as "pi user")
                        OpenMSX will see your added machine.
                        Just change the name in the xml, for example "Panasonic + V9000" so you will find it.
                        Now you should be able to add extensions in the xml.
                        https://openmsx.org/manual/setup.html#hardwareedit (8. Writing Hardware Descriptions)

                        Let me know if something works for you.

                        Hmmm, but then how do I launch different machines for different ROMs? I think I need to read up more, it isn't worth me being able to specify one type of machine at launch, as that won't really resolve anything.

                        This is interesting stuff though, thanks for doing some digging.

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                          Folly @AdamBeGood
                          last edited by Folly

                          @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          Hmmm, but then how do I launch different machines for different ROMs? I think I need to read up more, it isn't worth me being able to specify one type of machine at launch, as that won't really resolve anything.

                          This is interesting stuff though, thanks for doing some digging.

                          EDIT : Tested and works.

                          Well this should be really easy !

                          Can you try this ? :
                          /opt/retropie/configs/msx/emulators.cfg :

                          openmsx-uniq = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx -machine turbor -ext video9000 -exta Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge %ROM%"
openmsx = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx %ROM%"
default = "openmsx"

                          Boot your rom, press a key when you see the retropie loading screen.
                          use : Select emulator for rom ()
                          And choose for this rom only : openmsx-uniq

                          If I am correct, next time, your unique rom will use "openmsx-uniq".
                          Other roms should just use the normal "openmsx" or "lr-bluemsx" if you prefer.

                          If this works, than we have a very good solution for SD-Snatcher and MGS2 too :-)

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                            AdamBeGood @Folly
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                            @folly Excellent work! I'll try this tonight, I'm out with the family at the mo. Seems a good solution. Do you think it'll be able to set the Video output to V9000? I need to look at what the options are.

                            Bloody good idea anyway, very economical.

                            Edit: I need to find the machines list as well, I don't have TurboR set up, not the OpenMSX generic one. I need the Panasonic code. I'll find it.

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                              Folly @AdamBeGood
                              last edited by Folly

                              @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @folly Excellent work! I'll try this tonight, I'm out with the family at the mo. Seems a good solution. Do you think it'll be able to set the Video output to V9000? I need to look at what the options are.

                              Bloody good idea anyway, very economical.

                              Machine setup is already in the commandline => "turbor"
                              These extensions are in the commandline => "video9000" and "Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge"
                              Tested video9000. This is automatically used as source.
                              (you can see in the menu)

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                                AdamBeGood @Folly
                                last edited by AdamBeGood

                                @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                @folly Excellent work! I'll try this tonight, I'm out with the family at the mo. Seems a good solution. Do you think it'll be able to set the Video output to V9000? I need to look at what the options are.

                                Bloody good idea anyway, very economical.

                                Machine setup is already in the commandline => "turbor"
                                These extensions are in the commandline => "video9000" and "Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge"
                                Tested video9000. This is automatically used as source.
                                (you can see in the menu)

                                Works a treat! Wow! Great work.

                                openmsx = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx %ROM%"
openmsx-loe = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx -machine Panasonic_FS-A1GT -ext video9000 -exta moonsound %ROM%"
openmsx-sdsnatch = "/opt/retropie/emulators/openmsx/bin/openmsx -machine Panasonic_FS-A1GT -ext video9000 -exta Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge %ROM%"
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                                  Folly
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                                  @AdamBeGood

                                  Good job !
                                  Now we can share these game "starters".

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                                    Folly
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                                    While checking the PC8800 docs.
                                    Info of 2 emulators are shared of both quasi88(stand alone) and lr-quasi88.
                                    lr-quasi88 works and I made improvements in the docs.
                                    To complete the job I also had to check quasi88(stand alone).
                                    But it was not listed, so I could not install.
                                    For the pi4 at least, there is an issue in :
                                    /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/emulators/quasi88.sh
                                    When I change this line :

                                    rp_module_flags="dispmanx !mali !kms"

                                    Into :

                                    rp_module_flags="dispmanx !mali"

                                    Then we can install a working quasi88(stand alone).

                                    If you both want to test this emulator put the bios files in :
                                    /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/pc88
                                    Containing :
                                    N88EXT0.ROM N88EXT1.ROM N88EXT2.ROM N88EXT3.ROM N88N.ROM N88.ROM N88SUB.ROM
                                    Also using N88KNJ1.ROM, N88KNJ2.ROM then the menu is in Japanese and Japanese characters work in games !
                                    Not using N88KNJ1.ROM, N88KNJ2.ROM then the menu is in English and Japanese characters do not work in games !
                                    Press F12 to go into the menu.
                                    2 times F12 = exit (from within the menu)

                                    This stand alone emulator could be interesting.
                                    And I want good information about it, in the docs.

                                    EDIT :
                                    For both emulators I improved the doc for the PC8800 .
                                    I would like to ask you both to take a good look at it.
                                    If we all agree that it's OK for now.
                                    Then I will try to do a "push request" directly in github.

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                                      AdamBeGood @Folly
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                                      @folly Cool, I'll try to have a look at this then. I wonder if there are any performance differences.

                                      Edit: I've installed the standalone emulator now, it is only in a small window on my screen. I'll look at fixing that tomorrow.

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                                        Zering @Folly
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                                        @folly I've read through your proposed docs, as before i think it's excellent work. Perhaps you could add that some games, ie. Final Crisis, run at a different frequency mode?

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                                          Folly @Zering
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @folly I've read through your proposed docs, as before i think it's excellent work. Perhaps you could add that some games, ie. Final Crisis, run at a different frequency mode?

                                          Thanks for the reading.
                                          Good suggestion!
                                          I've added some important core options.

                                          I think it's finished now.

                                          EDIT : I did the push request

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                                            AdamBeGood @Folly
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                                            @folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @folly Excellent work! I'll try this tonight, I'm out with the family at the mo. Seems a good solution. Do you think it'll be able to set the Video output to V9000? I need to look at what the options are.

                                            Bloody good idea anyway, very economical.

                                            Machine setup is already in the commandline => "turbor"
                                            These extensions are in the commandline => "video9000" and "Konami_SD-Snatcher_Sound_Cartridge"
                                            Tested video9000. This is automatically used as source.
                                            (you can see in the menu)

                                            As an interesting foible, I've also bought "Myths and Dragons" by the same company, but the video for that game only works correctly on a GFX9000 output. If I change the emulator to add that as an extension rather than video9000, it does not default the source. It does add the extension correctly, and as soon as I manually change the Video Output, it works fine.

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