Old Computer Appreciation Thread

ecto

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

I finished the first one a few months ago, intent on playing through the whole series in order but 2 is horrible, so I think I'll skip ahead to UItima 3 and then replay 4 and 5 (possibly my favourite 8-bit RPG).

I just remembered that I played Ultima 3 on the Amiga and it is worlds ahead the pc version (which is in CGA). There are some patches around to make it better on pc, but it probably is easier to just play on the Amiga. The same goes for 4 and 5, although 4 can also be played on ScummVM.

Generally I'd suggest to play any compatible games on ScummVM than on DOS, just to have an easier life ;) (So all the Sierra and Lucasfilm games)

Zering

@adambegood I'll keep trying, I'll figure it out eventually. Thanks for trying.

@ecto Indeed, Ultima 3's Amiga port looks pretty spectacular! I'm torn between playing that or the patched version on DOS. From what I remember, it's as easy as patching the DOS version and then copying the game directory into the pc directory on the pi. Decisions, decisions...

I'll add that one to the Amiga list anyway.

From what I read, Ultima 4 and 5 on Amiga lack some functionalities, like being able to import your character from 4 into 5, but I'm not sure if that's actually true.

Folly

First file generation test is succeeded.
1676 systems are created !
WOW

Now I have to implement the actual lr-mess script text for generating the scripts.

Zering

@folly Good lord ^^

Are you seeing pc6001 anywhere in those cores?

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Good lord ^^

Are you seeing pc6001 anywhere in those cores?

yes it should be generated (.first line will be supported, for now)

pc6001           cartridge1       (cart1)    .bin  
                 cartridge2       (cart2)    .cas  .p6

Zering

@folly I would be VERY excited to try that out, I tried setting up that system on mess the old way many times and failed miserably.

ecto

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

From what I read, Ultima 4 and 5 on Amiga lack some functionalities, like being able to import your character from 4 into 5, but I'm not sure if that's actually true.

I'm not sure either. I found a quick reference Card for Amiga and itmentiones the transfer of characters. It should be possible but it honestly isn't important.

Ultima 3 was the first game I bought for the Amiga and man was I disappointed at first! The graphics were so bad (in comparison to Defender of the Crown) and there was so much english text that (at the time) I didn't understand. I had the whole border of the monitor full of Post-Its just to remember some key hints.... ahhh, the good old times! ;)

Zering

@ecto They're not the most accessible games if you struggle with the language ^^
It reminds me of my first experience with Ultima. I'd heard of the series and was interested so I made it a point to try one of them first thing once I got my first Pi. I got ripped off by a vendor, said the thing was full of games but there was like ten ^^ One of them was Ultima 4 for the Master System, so I jumped on it, and created a character.

Lo and behold, I rolled a warrior, and ended up on one of those islands in the east, with seemingly no way off and nothing to do.
I don't know why I returned to that game so many times because it took a dozen attempts because I enjoyed it and I utterly hated it the first time.

Edit : There was no german version of Ultima III on Amiga?

ecto

@zering I just found this

. Great stuff!

Zering

@ecto I saw that before! It's pretty great!

The FM Towns and X68000 versions look pretty gorgeous.

Sadly I can't get the games to run on lr-mess-fmtowns_cd and the X68000 is in japanese.

I was playing the X1 version yesterday and it's pretty funny, it's so lo-fi ^^

I'm going to have to play some Ultima now because of you :p

The music in V is particularly awesome :

Folly

I have to do the final checks.
The generated scripts look very good.

Added cdrom too.
Now there are 2164 systems !!!

EDIT : it takes about 6 minutes to generate

Zering

@folly Amazing! Incredible work as always.
Can't wait to test some systems.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Amazing! Incredible work as always.
Can't wait to test some systems.

Well, I think it's ready.
You can try. In a few minutes i will push it to the share repository.

Can you check 1 system with an original for me, before you install ?
It still can have a mistake, but I am quite confident now.

(everybody : use this on your own risk !!!!)

I hope this brings enormous possibilities.

Zering

@folly I'm available to run tests for the next hour or so, but what do you mean by checking one system with an original?

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly I'm available to run tests for the next hour or so, but what do you mean by checking one system with an original?

EDIT3: Spaces in front of the first extension and description should be no problem.

Just one from the retropie-setup directory.
Where we edited one yesterday.

EDIT2 : install MAME first in your setup, if you didn't already !!!!

EDIT : download the script from 00-scripts-00
Run it with :

bash generate-lr-mess-systems.sh

It will make a libretrocores directory and writes al the generated files in that directory.

Choose the script you want to try and copy that to :
/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/libretrocores

Zering

@folly Right, I see what you mean. I've used a bunch of those scripts extensively, I can find a few to compare the old and new scripts.

00-scripts-00? Is that on your repository?

15:17:43 Starting

Folly

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Zering

@folly Got it working, it took exactly six minutes.

I can't tell exactly how many scripts your scripts added but I've got 2332 sh files in my scriptmodules directory.

This is insane, I love it.

Folly

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Got it working, it took exactly six minutes.

I can't tell exactly how many scripts your scripts added but I've got 2332 sh files in my scriptmodules directory.

This is insane, I love it.

Great !!! HAHAHA. ;-)
Perhaps you have a newer MAME.

Zering

@folly I had a bunch of scriptmodules already installed as well.

I'll be trying lr-mess-astrocde. I've been running those games through MESS for ages, the comparison will be good.
If I can find them I'll also try Jaguar CD, Pippin and PC6001. None of them worked previously using the regular MESS way.

Is there a simple command to install a scriptmodule without having to go into RetroPie-Setup?