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    • Impman66I
      Impman66
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      I am finally in the process of building my Bartop Arcade, having managed to get some scrap wood, that was ideal for the task. I plan to have the following in the unit;

      Pi Model 3B - Not really sure of benefits using a Pi4
      Power Block with 3 sockets and 3 USB ports each with a current rating of 3.01A - should be ideal for running Pi of that.
      LCD TV 19" - Simply built in speakers and option to view TV
      IEC fused power socket (Kettle lead) - Separate illuminated Switch.

      12v Switchablle power supply 20A rated - This is the first thing I need advice on, as to where to get it, best type tp get etc. I want to use it to power the LED's I will use for the Marque and a couple of fans.
      The fans ordered from Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Security-01-Bearing-Brushless-Cooling-AV-F8025MB/dp/B072QCTYJW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Security-01+2pack+80mm+by+80mm+by+25mm+8025+12V+DC+0.20A+Ball+Bearing+Brushless+Cooling+Fan+2pin+AV-F8025MB&qid=1616431508&s=computers&sr=1-1
      This USB extension plug for additional controllers/keyboard - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bolongking-Extension-Motorcycle-Square-Single/dp/B07DDB2L5N/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Bolongking+USB+Panel+Flush+Mount+Cable+USB+3.0+Extension+USB+Mount%2C+Dash+Mount%2C+Flush+Mount%2C+Panel+Mount+Cable%2C+For+Car%2C+Boat%2C+Motorcycle+(Square+Single+USB+3.0+1M)&qid=1616431667&s=electronics&sr=1-1
      I was also contemplating on fitting an ethernet port as well - 2nd bit of advice is it worth getting one of these or not?
      LED strip - think this would be better as I could go around the whole marquee.
      The front CP will have 2 buttons on left (Coin, Player), repeated on the right, and one in the centre that I am hoping I ca make into a reset/hotkey - are there any docs/instructions on the best way to do this?
      Finally the control panel itself and the main reason for the post, as I haven't really got a definitive answer anywhere (maybe as there isn't one)
      I am planning on having this set-up for the control panel;
      cptemp2.jpg
      So the left player would be an 8-way joystick, and the right reserved for classics such as Donkey Kong, Pacman, Burger Time etc, the type of games that play better using a 4-way joystick and only need 2 buttons.
      The reason for doing this is I have read and reread the documentation on putting in restrictors for 4-way, and I still can't make head nor tail of it. So thought it best just to do it this way, as I rarely play fighter games, and if I do I will have the USB in the back for an added controller.
      Now the question is, how many games are there that actually play better with 4-way? I know the obvious ones, but are there many more? I ask as if there is more that play better with 4-way, rather than 8-way, then I would swap over the 4-way to the left. Also, am I right in my assumption the majority of games that utilise 4-way control only require 2-buttons? Are there many that need 3 or even 4?
      Would be grateful for any answers, before I order the joysticks, and any other advice anyone can give on building the Bartop and what to include.
      Maybe we should have a category in the Documents section for just such an enterprise.

      Again thanks for any feedback!

      Pi Model or other hardware: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
      Power Supply used: Generic 5v 2.5A Panasonic
      RetroPie Version Used : 4.5.1
      Built From: Retropie website
      USB Devices connected: 2 x Dragonrise N64 Encoders

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      • theissdevT
        theissdev @Impman66
        last edited by theissdev

        @impman66 If you've got the space for it, these are killer for both 8 and 4 -way: https://smile.amazon.com/Mag-stik-plus-Arcade-Joystick-Player-Switchable/dp/B0108UQHYE/ref=sr_1_6?crid=Y86RH1QIYAWM&dchild=1&keywords=4%2F8+way+switchable+joystick&qid=1616450396&sprefix=4+8+way+joys%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-6
        What I've got on my cabinet and they're awesome. Just pull up on the joystick and turn it a little until you feel it pop into the slot, then change the 8 to 4 -way and vice versa while in the slot. No need to go under and mess w/ restrictor plates. Back and forth w/ just the joystick itself.

        Cocktail Cab Project - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/23763/cocktail-cab-project?_=1592408967951

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        • Impman66I
          Impman66 @theissdev
          last edited by

          @theissdev Awesome, thanks for that, sounds like a perfect solution.

          Pi Model or other hardware: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
          Power Supply used: Generic 5v 2.5A Panasonic
          RetroPie Version Used : 4.5.1
          Built From: Retropie website
          USB Devices connected: 2 x Dragonrise N64 Encoders

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          • IanDaemonI
            IanDaemon @theissdev
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            @theissdev I went with a control panel solution for "+" and "x" orientations so that I could play Q*bert easier with a single 4-way stick. Are you able to stop at a 45 degree angle with the Mag-Stick Plus?

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            • theissdevT
              theissdev @IanDaemon
              last edited by

              @iandaemon Nope. It's just traditional 4 and 8-ways. I just wanted a way to switch between the two w/o having to muck around under the joysticks.

              Cocktail Cab Project - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/23763/cocktail-cab-project?_=1592408967951

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              • Impman66I
                Impman66 @theissdev
                last edited by

                @theissdev Looked at the price of the Mag-Stick and to get it here in the UK, is going to be a bit pricey. If I go with my original idea of having one 8-way and 1 4-way joystick, will the pi identify as player 1 whatever selection on the coin/start buttons i make first? So for instance if I do 8-way first it will use that, if 4-way that. Or is whatever is plugged into USB 1 automatically player 1?
                I ask as really there is only ever going to be one person playing at a time, so if they can chose what stick, it makes things easier.

                Pi Model or other hardware: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
                Power Supply used: Generic 5v 2.5A Panasonic
                RetroPie Version Used : 4.5.1
                Built From: Retropie website
                USB Devices connected: 2 x Dragonrise N64 Encoders

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                • theissdevT
                  theissdev @Impman66
                  last edited by

                  @impman66 Hrrmm... Not sure if there's a way to auto-select based on 8/4-way. Sure it can be done manually, but that may be a pain. Can't remember how long the 4-way game list is. Once it's set to that one (just going into mame controls and setting the l/r/u/d controls to the 4-way) it'll be good from then on. Just kinda tedious to do that.

                  Cocktail Cab Project - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/23763/cocktail-cab-project?_=1592408967951

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                  • Impman66I
                    Impman66 @theissdev
                    last edited by

                    @theissdev Thanks again for all your help

                    Pi Model or other hardware: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
                    Power Supply used: Generic 5v 2.5A Panasonic
                    RetroPie Version Used : 4.5.1
                    Built From: Retropie website
                    USB Devices connected: 2 x Dragonrise N64 Encoders

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