Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement
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@mitu I've been enabling retroarch's online updater and installing the shaders that way. I really wanted the crt-royale shader to work but the pi5 is just too weak for it. I tried glcore but I also got a low fps. While lr-beetle-psx did use software mode for it, I noticed a lower fps with glcore and vulkan on all the emulators I tried. Maybe the mesa drivers need to be updated for it. I will try pikiss's vulkan/mesa updater whenever it works with bookworm/pi5.
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@Darksavior said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:
Maybe the mesa drivers need to be updated for it. I will try pikiss's vulkan/mesa updater whenever it works with bookworm/pi5.
I doubt that will yield better results. The version of Mesa included in RaspiOS is a modified/patched one to include the Pi5 driver. The driver is not - yet - part of any official MESA release, so updating Mesa may actually break your setup.
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@mitu said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:
@Darksavior said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:
Maybe the mesa drivers need to be updated for it. I will try pikiss's vulkan/mesa updater whenever it works with bookworm/pi5.
I doubt that will yield better results. The version of Mesa included in RaspiOS is a modified/patched one to include the Pi5 driver. The driver is not - yet - part of any official MESA release, so updating Mesa may actually break your setup.
Is that why the couple of YouTubers couldn't get Dolphin and AetherSX2 working on Raspberry Pi OS but could on the Ubuntu 20.10 build do you think?
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@retropieuser555 said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:
Is that why the couple of YouTubers couldn't get Dolphin and AetherSX2 working on Raspberry Pi OS but could on the Ubuntu 20.10 build do you think?
I haven't paying attention to this and haven't watched all the videos published, maybe the reason they were using Ubuntu is because installing the emulators was easier (using
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I just got my pi5 and wondering if its possible to get retropie installed manually or are we supposed to wait for an official release on the retropie.org.uk website?
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You can install manually if you wish, the basic things should work by now.
Note that - since Bullseye - there's no longer a default user included in the OS and upon 1st boot you'll be prompted to create one. You can skip this step if your use the RPI imager to write the image and optn the advanced options to set the name and pass of the default user. The RetroPie image pre-sets the user automatically, but if you're starting from a Lite image you'll need to either configure it in RPI Imager or set it up on 1st boot. -
@mitu
Thanks for replying.I setup Raspi OS 64-Bit Lite using Pi Imager.
Is the recommended way to install retropie from terminal by following the guide at https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Manual-Installation/EDIT: I found a guide on youtube and now have RetroPie installed.
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@Simrose said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:
Is the recommended way to install retropie from terminal by following the guide at https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Manual-Installation/
Yes.
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@mitu
Thanks the official guide from https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Manual-Installation/ worked perfect!
The youtube guide was the same.I always find the documentation for RetroPie to be excellent.
The installation part has been taking a good amount of time at the stage of processing getting sources for sdl2.
I think this will be normal for a new install.
Everything Installed as it should now looking forward to testing some games. -
Doesn’t really seem like there is any widespread availability of Pi 5’s yet. It’s weird that Eben Upton proclaimed that the Pi 5 was now available in his Oct 23 blog post and that they were actually ahead of schedule. That’s 1.5 weeks ago and I don’t really think I’ve seen any reports of this thing actually being delivered within the EU (aside from priority orders). Most forums (including this one) seem suspiciously devoid of Pi 5 related posts as well. It does seem the UK has received some quantities at least. Other than that, it’s hard to see where the supposedly several tens of thousands of boards have gone. I’ve been following along since the Pi 2 was launched and this one has been pretty weird so far.
Anyway, I have two Pi 5s on order (one 8GB and one 4GB) since Sep 28. Hopefully they’ll be delivered in the coming week. The reseller seems just as clueless as me as to when the boards will arrive, though.
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@Brunnis I have the same order coming. Hoping next week sometime
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@Brunnis same for myself. I'm based in the UK and based on the raspberry pi forum doesn't seem like it's much better here getting one either. But all the content around the pi 5 online like reviews, guides and such have all come from before the 23rd October date, so presumably from people who got the machine early.
Anyway it's a first world problem really, will just have to wait for whenever it gets delivered. And in the case of ourselves following the RetroPie project, it will be months before official support is at the level to build an image. But in any case, it'll be fun to have a play around and see what it's like.
And besides waiting for the pi 5 has got me more into my pi 4 build; finally got the light gun controls working on Snatcher on Mega CD and I can't believe how much easier the gun sections are! And I started playing Ys games for the first time ever, where has this series been all this time!?
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@Brunnis I must've gotten lucky by choosing the right reseller. I preordered on sept 28th on Sparkfun (US) and it arrived a week ago.
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@Darksavior Yeah, seems a bit hit or miss. Mostly miss in the EU, right now. Saw a few other comments today saying deliveries are slim to non-existent in Spain and Germany as well. Upton did mention that some countries could be later due to lack of finalized compliance documents. I hardly think they messed up the compliance work that bad for EU, though. In the end, it's no big deal. Within a few weeks, most of us will have our Pi 5s. Given the fanfare surrounding it all and the dedicated fan base, it's just a bit surprising they're not more open with what's going on when the plans fall through. Becase I hardly think this highly staggered/spotty launch was what they originally planned.
Let's hope this new week brings more Pi 5s for everyone! 😁
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And... One Pi 5 8GB is now on its way to me! 😎 As I mentioned earlier, I ordered very close to the announcement, so today probably marks the first day of deliveries here in Sweden. I have some peripherals in another order, so hopefully those will be shipped out today as well.
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Are the raspberry pi5 drivers not final yet and that is why batocera beta and recalbox are not optimized yet?
If so how do we track progress if the raspberry pi5 ?
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RPi5 it's a new product and it needs time so some things to be polished. You can check RetroPie GitHub page to see the progress of the project or better install it in the Bookworm lite to test every change. For other systems, better ask in their forums, as they know better. -
@skankieflank pretty much just wait for the official releases. Pi 5 support does exist in one of the testing branches in gitlab I think according to this:- https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-23.3-rc1-Released
If you go the manual route there and install it expect instability and bugs though.
I meant to ask @Darksavior did you attempt an overclock? Reading the odd few managed 3GHz/900MHz but most seem to bottom out at 2.8GHz/800MHz?
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@retropieuser555 I only managed to get a 2.8Ghz cpu overclock without overvoltage. I tried 2.9Ghz and 3Ghz/1Ghz with some over voltage settings from Jeff Geerling but it kept freezing. I didn't try 900Mhz on the gpu but I don't really know what would benefit from an extra 100Mhz.
At this time, emulators need optimizing and fixing. lr-flycast and all n64 emulators don't load and crash. Using the glcore or vulkan renderer on any emulator is actually much, much slower. Unless vulkan is only useful with dreamcast and n64 but I can't test those yet. Then there's the issue of someone possibly needing to port the standalone dolphin and aethersx2 to run without the desktop. I won't be using the desktop.
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@Darksavior Try with the newer version of lr-flycast, i hope it works with Pi5, see: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/3789
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