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    Freezing when editing MetaData

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    • DominusD
      Dominus
      last edited by

      Upped the Split to 768, but it still froze, so I am guessing it has nothing to do with that?!?

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      • herb_fargusH
        herb_fargus administrators @Dominus
        last edited by

        @Dominus Try a new power supply and or sd card.

        If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

        Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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        • J
          jacobfk20
          last edited by

          @Dominus Even with a 2.1A power supply on my Pi3 I still can't cause this. I am forcing my vram to overflow, currently setting at 285mb and it is running at 45fps in the Edit Metadata menu. As @herb_fargus said, swap the sd and power and see what happens.

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          • meleuM
            meleu @Dominus
            last edited by

            @Dominus can you better describe what is this "freeze"?
            Please, try to answer these questions:

            • after freezing, are you able to quit emulationstation with F4?
            • after freezing, are you able to connect to your pi via SSH?
            • if yes, can you run htop (or other process monitoring tool) to check if emulationstation is "eating" your CPU/MEM?
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            • DominusD
              Dominus @herb_fargus
              last edited by

              @herb_fargus I don't have 2.5a power supply at the moment, so just using a 2.1a. They are hard to find lol. Can I plug it into one of my computer's USB 3.0 slots, and will it be sufficient enough to power it? I will try to swap SD cards later to see if this fixes anything aswell.
              @meleu I can't press f4, but I am able to get into SSH. I ran htop, but I have no idea how to read this thing:
              0_1473981987018_htop.JPG

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              • J
                jacobfk20
                last edited by

                It looks like you're running ES six times?

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                • DominusD
                  Dominus @jacobfk20
                  last edited by

                  @jacobfk20 I assume that's not normal? I did not do anything to make it run 6x haha.

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                  • J
                    jacobfk20
                    last edited by

                    I've only ever used top, which I am assuming is what htop is, but see if you can kill those extra ES's. you can do that with: kill [pid] where pid is the process ID. Hopefully they wont all restart when you run ES again.

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                    • meleuM
                      meleu @jacobfk20
                      last edited by

                      @jacobfk20 said in Freezing when editing MetaData:

                      It looks like you're running ES six times?

                      htop shows individual threads as separate processes by default. :-)

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                      • J
                        jacobfk20
                        last edited by

                        Ah, ok. Good to know.

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                        • meleuM
                          meleu
                          last edited by

                          I noticed that ES isn't very CPU intensive, but there's something being processed. So it's not an actual freezing.

                          The first time I faced that issue exiting ES with "save metadata on exit" on, I thought ES froze. I never waited those 5 minutes until @herb_fargus answered a topic I started here in the forum and I realized that it actually was processing data and wasn't frozen.

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                          • meleuM
                            meleu
                            last edited by meleu

                            I think we have a conclusion here:
                            ES doesn't freeze when editing metadata. It just takes ages to process metadata changes. :-)

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                            • DominusD
                              Dominus @meleu
                              last edited by

                              @meleu I'll try leaving it and seeing if it comes back to life, but as I said before sometimes even just hitting 'select' on a rom will do it, which isn't necessarily the metadata. I'm sure I've left it for 10 mins once and nothing...

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                              • meleuM
                                meleu @Dominus
                                last edited by

                                @Dominus My collection is this big:

                                game list size:
                                Atari2600: 1443
                                FBA: 1
                                GameBoy Advance: 10
                                Master System: 545
                                Mega Drive: 1239
                                NeoGeo: 7
                                NES: 2141
                                PC Engine: 2
                                SNES: 2271

                                And took 5 minutes to exit emulationstation when "save metadata on exit" was on. OK, I know you are not doing the same task as me, but your collection seems to be a a way bigger than mine and maybe it takes a lot of time to process everything it's trying to process...

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                                • DominusD
                                  Dominus @meleu
                                  last edited by

                                  @meleu @jacobfk20 @herb_fargus Well tried a different SD card, but no luck. I waited over 30 mins when it just locked up. The screen had a fuzzy bar at the bottom?
                                  0_1474060533105_20160916_145047.jpg

                                  I could still log into SSH, so it's not like the Pi froze, just ES? Not too sure.

                                  I am going to try a fresh image with the 4.0.2 download.

                                  Here were my systems I was running:
                                  Arcade: 82
                                  Atari 2600: 544
                                  Atari 7800: 68
                                  Lynx: 86
                                  Coleco: 159
                                  GameGear: 280
                                  GameBoy: 154
                                  GameBoy Advance: 34
                                  GameBoy Color: 14
                                  Genesis: 781
                                  LOVE: 2
                                  Sega Master System: 253
                                  MSX: 48
                                  Nintendo64: 5
                                  NES: 798
                                  NeoGeo Pocket: 6
                                  NeoGeo Pocket Color: 43
                                  Kodi: 1
                                  PC: 7
                                  TurboGrafx-16: 104
                                  Ports: 4
                                  PSP: 10
                                  PSX: 86
                                  SCUMMVM: 9
                                  Sega 32x: 34
                                  SegaCD: 13
                                  SNES: 810
                                  Infocom: 3
                                  Vectrex: 38

                                  @jacobfk20 You said you couldn't get the same results as me, were you running the same amount of systems too? Hopefully a rebuilt SD card will fix it.

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                                  • BuZzB
                                    BuZz administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    Did you confirm your GPU mem settings are applied correctly ?
                                    What is the output of free -h ? Perhaps you can post your config.txt ?

                                    Might be unrelated to GPU memory of course and some bug in ES you are triggering.

                                    To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                    • BuZzB
                                      BuZz administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      Does it help if you temporarily disable some systems ? (eg by renaming their rom folders) ?

                                      To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                      • 3lric3
                                        3lric
                                        last edited by 3lric

                                        Everytime I've tried to overclock using the settings on the Wiki, I've had this issue. After reverting to default settings it stopped freezing. I read somewhere on the forum that this was an problem with ES freezing rather than the Pi itself (which is why you can still login via SSH). Using Attract Mode was suggested as a solution but I've never tried it.

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                                        • DominusD
                                          Dominus @BuZz
                                          last edited by

                                          @BuZz
                                          0_1474135127154_freeh.JPG
                                          And this is what's in my config.txt under /boot:

                                          gpu_mem=768
                                          dtparam=audio=on
                                          #gpu_mem_256=128
                                          #gpu_mem_512=256
                                          #gpu_mem_1024=256
                                          overscan_scale=1

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                                          • DominusD
                                            Dominus
                                            last edited by

                                            @3lric I haven't tried overclocking my Pi3 yet, just increased the Split so far.

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