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    $20 Orange Pi support in Retropie? 2 x 10 faster then a Pi3!

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    • allenpieA
      allenpie
      last edited by

      Will we ever have support for other Pi's like the Orange Pi?
      I would think it would game better then a Pi3 but I'm sure all the drivers would be different? Is anyone working on porting this to other system?

      Anyone have any information?

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/orange-pi-64-bit-quad-core-computer-for-20/

      PI 3 vs Orange Pi
      http://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2016/review-odroid-c2-compared-raspberry-pi-3-and-orange-pi-plus

      Few Benchmarks
      https://www.loverpi.com/blogs/news/94801153-raspberry-pi-3-banana-pi-m3-orange-pi-plus-2-odroid-c2-spec-comparison
      http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/04/02/low-cost-development-boards-linux-benchmarks-raspberry-pi-vs-banana-pi-vs-orange-pi-vs-odroid/

      Retro Pie and Chill

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      • meleuM
        meleu @allenpie
        last edited by

        @allenpie is there some Debian-like distro for this Orange Pi?

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        • BuZzB
          BuZz administrators
          last edited by BuZz

          I don't have this board, and no-one has submitted support - I have no plans to work on it. Will require similar support as that of the ODroid-c1 which was a fair amount of work to get sorted, but may be able to reuse some stuff. Hardkernel provided packaged driver blob for the mali gpu on the framebuffer which we use - the OSes that this board support may not do that. Also requires a custom SDL2 with a mali backend.

          RetroPie on the ODroid-c1 also only really supports retroarch and sdl2 based emulators.

          The Raspberry Pi has superior software support and community, so I don't really see an advantage tbh. Also - http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/05/allwinner-chinese-vendor-android-pi-kernel-backdoor/

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            alexkidd
            last edited by alexkidd

            Yes, it was ported earlier this year and updated a few times. It's based on latest Armbian, no more backdoors.
            http://orangepi.club/forumdisplay.php?fid=5
            It works really fine, but performance is very similar, not superior to RPI3. Well , except for a few games that run better.

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            • BuZzB
              BuZz administrators
              last edited by BuZz

              No-one has fed anything back - you sure it's a fork of retropie ? Can't see any link to the source either which isn't good.

              I know the backdoor is fixed - but the fact it happened, and the attitude of allwinner with GPL was my point regarding driver support etc.

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                alexkidd
                last edited by

                Actually it's a mix of Armbian buildroot (Jessie Desktop) + Retropie-Setup script + a load of little tweaks to make it work decently. Very experimental but it's been working really fine.
                And yes, Allwinner / Xunlong behaviour is just embarassing.

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                • BuZzB
                  BuZz administrators
                  last edited by BuZz

                  @alexkidd I see you are an admin there - Please can you tell me where the sourcecode is.

                  To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                  • BuZzB
                    BuZz administrators
                    last edited by BuZz

                    I have downloaded the image, and looks like someone has just hacked a few parts of retropie-setup code (still references our upstream repo too - but contains some local changes). Doesn't look like all changes are included here - eg changes for the various included software etc. Where are the ES changes kept - retropie-setup still references our code, so I suspect they built it manually from another source.

                    I suspect this is in breach of a bunch of licences and seems a hack - and daft that someone would do this rather than feeding relevant changes back to RetroPie.

                    Can't find any references to the GPL licence on the wiki either - the source should be made available for all components (if they require it, but most of the code is GPL or copyleft)

                    I guess I shouldn't be surprised really - fits in with the allwinner ethos.

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                      alexkidd
                      last edited by

                      Gee, man, we will certainly give more details in private and explain how the project evolved. Basically we haven't changed much in the script , so we haven't got a git repo yet, we can create one no problem. Some external emulators were compiled separately with just a few tweaks to be compatible with retropie configs. Please let us know the best way to proceed. In the meantime we have disabled downloads so we can fix this.

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                      • BuZzB
                        BuZz administrators
                        last edited by BuZz

                        What's this "Gee, man" nonsense? If you are unsure of licences you should check before hand. You are surprised I care about our licence and the licence of the components we include?

                        You don't need to take the images down. Just make all the code available.

                        Nothing to talk about in private. Please respect and adhere to the licences of the software you are using. Thanks.

                        To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                        • allenpieA
                          allenpie
                          last edited by

                          Don't get me wrong I love my pi3 for the $$ but waiting for the pi4 is taking a long time should be out in 2017 and we can do n64 and psp games ect and might even be able to do ps2 who knows. Just look for other options to run a full retropie setup on the current single boards out there for cheap and low power

                          Will there be any other platforms in the future or anything planned?

                          Retro Pie and Chill

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                            enderandrew
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                            If people are interested in playing higher end emulators for games, then the GPU matters just as much as the CPU. I don't see anywhere that the $20 Orange Pi One is really faster than the Raspberry Pi 3, let alone 2 to 10 times faster.

                            The ODroid-C2 is faster in some ways (but also lacks on-board Bluetooth) and is considerably more expensive (basically twice as expensive).

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                            • allenpieA
                              allenpie
                              last edited by

                              Is anyone running any better standalone boards then a pi3? I know I could build a tiny pc but a portable power board that can run Jaguar or dream cast would be ideal

                              Retro Pie and Chill

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                              • mediamogulM
                                mediamogul Global Moderator @allenpie
                                last edited by

                                @allenpie said in $20 Orange Pi support in Retropie? 2 x 10 faster then a Pi3!:

                                better standalone boards then a pi3?

                                Better is subjective. You'll find boards with better specs on paper, but in most cases, the software options are limited and often not optimized, which can even negate the speed benefits to begin with.

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                                  enderandrew
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                                  Part of me is hoping for a 2017 revision of the Raspberry Pi 3 (we've had releases the past two years in February) with a beefier GPU. They could do that without a total redesign and keep most compatibility with the existing Pi 3. Maybe a slight clock increase on the Pi 3 as well.

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                                  • mediamogulM
                                    mediamogul Global Moderator @enderandrew
                                    last edited by mediamogul

                                    @enderandrew said in $20 Orange Pi support in Retropie? 2 x 10 faster then a Pi3!:

                                    Part of me is hoping for a 2017 revision of the Raspberry Pi 3... with a beefier GPU.

                                    To quote the American cinematic masterpiece 'Robocop', "I'd buy that for a dollar!"

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                                      JohnTube
                                      last edited by

                                      Orange Pi is definitly unuseful....

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                                      • vbsV
                                        vbs @allenpie
                                        last edited by vbs

                                        @allenpie said in $20 Orange Pi support in Retropie? 2 x 10 faster then a Pi3!:

                                        Is anyone running any better standalone boards then a pi3?

                                        Not sure if it counts but I am running retropie on an Intel i5 nuc from eBay with 120 GB SSD for about 200€ including RAM and PSU and I am really happy with it. Oh also main point was the akasa passively cooled case also.

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                                        • allenpieA
                                          allenpie @vbs
                                          last edited by

                                          @vbs said in $20 Orange Pi support in Retropie? 2 x 10 faster then a Pi3!:

                                          Intel i5 nuc

                                          ^^ are you running it on top of a linux? Unbuntu? What version
                                          I have setup a upboard with Unbuntu and it had so many issues for me
                                          Both 16.04 run fine but no controllers
                                          14.04 run fine but no audio driver

                                          Pretty sure it's an issue with the upboard

                                          Retro Pie and Chill

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                                          • vbsV
                                            vbs @allenpie
                                            last edited by

                                            @allenpie
                                            In my case it Lubuntu 16.04 x64. I have 4 Xbox 360 Wireless Controllers that work fine with the Microsoft USB dongle.

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