Legal help needed
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Well, the next time anyone who bought a pre-built pi with games wanders in here and demands support, I know whose email address I'm giving them.
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Based on the trademark filing he has a product website, and wow, this guy has no shame in blatantly ripping off others' work for profit.
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@obsidianspider wow, his faq even links to the Retropie.org.uk wiki to tell which systems are included.
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He has his custom images up for download if it would help to look at them. I don't feel right about linking them, but the highest version is 4.2.1 if you can wrap your brain around that absurdity.
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Thanks everyone for your support and ideas. We are looking into a number of options currently.
To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first
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if you go to http://retrogamingconsole.com/ hit support and then report to https://freshdesk.com/contact that https://retrogamingconsole.freshdesk.com/support/home is not legit we could get his support kicked. he wants to be back stabbing, customers have the right to report fake services and sites!
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LOL nevermind the site that they use for the ticketing is giving.
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@BuZz if you contact these guys they should be able to help you out. https://www.fsf.org/licensing
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Consider writing to The Register: http://theregister.co.uk they have been supportive to me in the past in publicising similar 'silliness'.
The Register love a good Pi story, and I'm sure they'll get their mits on this story one way or another?
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@hunterk posted this link on the Libretro forums.
Does "prior art" apply to Trademarks?
Interesting read with answers from 8 different lawyers.
There is also some reddit threads if you just search for "retropie legal help". Some with god info and some with more personal attacks and hateful comments. Like always.
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@mediamogul said in Legal help needed:
I don't believe in karma as being some sort of magical force, but I do believe that people who move through life with no regard for other people ultimately find themselves in a situation where they have no one willing to support or tolerate them and many even actively working against them to make their life difficult. If this is to be believed at all and that his actions here represent a pattern of despicable behavior, then I have no doubt that Aditya Rawat will find himself on the losing end of life before long.
Reading reviews and such on what appears to be the domain registrant, Domains by Proxy, I hope karma comes around sooner rather than later for him.
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Found him on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/usr/retrogamingconsoles?_trksid=p2047675.l2559one semi good thing is he is giving everyone selling retropies a trademark violation, so he can be the only seller lol
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Wow.
Let us know if donations are needed for legal help.
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Looks like there is a lot of head on topic and I am here representing the retrogamingconsoles
The trademark is not hurt or jeopardize the project but a weapon to protect from the commercial users violating the rules and jeopardizing the project.
The takedowns been done only against the folks who were loading the roms illegally and making retropie a piracy project.
What trademark is all about.
A weapon against anybody:
- loading roms illegally and selling it online for profits jeopardizing the project itself.
-Not respecting the non-commercial clauses and scarping the non commercial cores from end project.
-Not respecting the GNU principals and codebase when the project is in a commercial product.
-using the project commercially and not providing a official support, taxing the forum.
What trademark is NOT about:
- to be used against makes who make profit and share their work around the project.
- to be used against the interest of the project
- take over the freedom and future of the project
The commercialization also plans to donate percentage of profits to the project directly and hire developers to add features to the project.
All contributions will remain open source as long as the founders keep it that way.Commercializing and bastardization of the project has already been going for months, all this is to protect the movement and not act against it.
Happy to have a educated conversation without the hate speech and blames and work on common grounds to help project this movement.
Long live retropie !
- loading roms illegally and selling it online for profits jeopardizing the project itself.
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@retrogamingcon
Did you ever consider contacting the developers first?looks like you got a couple of hundreds of sales on ebay, any of that profit went to developers?
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@retrogamingcon said in Legal help needed:
What trademark is all about.
A weapon against anybody:
- loading roms illegally and selling it online for profits jeopardizing the project itself.
-Not respecting the non-commercial clauses and scarping the non commercial cores from end project.
-Not respecting the GNU principals and codebase when the project is in a commercial product.
-using the project commercially and not providing a official support, taxing the forum.
This is your eBay feedback. No illegal ROMS?
- loading roms illegally and selling it online for profits jeopardizing the project itself.
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What about sending him "some" e-mails XD?
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@retrogamingcon Appreciate that you posted and explained your point of view.
As you registered something created by hard work of others, if your intention is/was to protect and support the project, it would be expected that you involve the creators of Retropie before registering. Just personal opinion. -
@retrogamingcon said in Legal help needed:
Looks like there is a lot of head on topic and I am here representing the retrogamingconsoles
The trademark is not hurt or jeopardize the project but a weapon to protect from the commercial users violating the rules and jeopardizing the project.
The takedowns been done only against the folks who were loading the roms illegally and making retropie a piracy project.
You are selling pirated roms. Your eBay feedback proves it.
I hope your lawyers are good. It's not us, but a few companies in Japan, that you might really need to worry about.
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@DanielD The cash flow on the entire commercialization remains negative ( due tooling in china and IP protection costs), the case that you see on the website was originally tooled by us however in china there is no such than as IP amongst the manufacturers unless you involve legal grounds beforehand our cases got copied in no time. The effort is to start doing in the coming quarter.
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