Retro game stuff talk

[lilbud]

@sgtjimmyrustles said in Retro game stuff talk:

Playing the SNES Aladdin reminded me of how inferior it is to the genesis version.

[SgtJimmyRustles]

@lilbud

We're all entitled to our own opinion. But from what I've seen, most people generally agree the Genesis version was better.

[ruckage]

@sgtjimmyrustles said in Retro game stuff talk:

Playing the SNES Aladdin reminded me of how inferior it is to the genesis version.

Sacrilege. I owned both when they were released and always enjoyed the Snes version much more - classic Capcom at it's best and I can happily play it over and over again. The Megadrive version gets boring fast in my opinion.

[SgtJimmyRustles]

@ruckage

I respectfully disagree. The Aladdin by Virgin Games feels more like I'm playing an aladdin game, while the SNES version feels more like a generic platformer. That being said, SNES is smooth and shows off Aladdin's agility and natural grace, but the Genesis one feels more authentic.

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@sgtjimmyrustles
I disagree with your disagreement :D

I was impressed with the animation on the megadrive version but I can't say I really enjoyed playing it that much (apart from the level in the Dungeon which I did like).
If it wasn't for the state of the art animation (for the time) I don't believe it would have been regarded so highly when it was released

The snes version feels more varied and the levels are more fun. The graphics though lacking the official Disney animation are equally beautiful and dare I say prettier in many ways than the megadrive version (particularly the backgrounds). For me it's just much more fun to play and so I think as a game it's better. (And it definitely feels like an Aladdin game to me).

Perhaps they shouldn't really be compared as after all they do only share a name and a lot of it boils down to personal taste. And the fact we have 2 totally different high quality games (something that rarely happens today) is in itself a plus as it's one extra game that may never have existed. I got a game I loved, and you got game that you loved - everybody's happy :).

[MrJordaaany]

@ruckage @SgtJimmyRustles Wait they are both not the same game? I thought it was just the same game ported to different systems.

@obsidianspider that sucks man. I didnt opt for a lower temp soldering iron, I just used my usual one. The DMG gameboy is alot more durable for sure when it comes to this fix, the ribbon cable can really take the heat.

That being said, its not always the fix. Sometimes the ribbon cable is too far gone.

[obsidianspider]

OK nerds, to bring us somewhat back on topic, here are my two copies of Aladdin.

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@mrjordaaany said in Retro game stuff talk:

@ruckage @SgtJimmyRustles Wait they are both not the same game? I thought it was just the same game ported to different systems.

Yeah totally different games, you should try both if you haven't already.

@obsidianspider said in Retro game stuff talk:

OK nerds, to bring us somewhat back on topic, here are my two copies of Aladdin.

One thing's for sure - Megadrive/Genesis cases are much nicer (those cardboard SNES cases were terrible - I'm sure most ended up in the bin as they got so tatty). What was it with Nintendo and cardboard cases. On the plus side boxed Snes games are now rarer so worth more.

[FlyingTomahawk]

I always liked the MD stuff more than SNES.
IMO SNES was more mainstream where MD was more for "real" gamers, more gore inside. At least that is what I thought about it then.
I also liked the MD boxes. For cartridges best there ever was. Just the manual holder sucked and you tend to loose them or damage them more often.

The downside of MD is, if you would start to collect all the games now it would cost you a lot, lot money. Acclaim titles are very expensive.

[edmaul69]

@sgtjimmyrustles due to the genesis’ crappy color palette and crappy audio i prefer any game on the snes over the genesis version. Not saying anything wrong with the genesis as i love playing genesis and sega cd just a personal preference when playing games that are available on both.

[SgtJimmyRustles]

@edmaul69

There's a case to be made if it's the same game and it plays the same, yes. But these are two completely different games that just so happen to contain the same character.

The smoother animations, the fact that the Genesis Version is super chilled and laid back (Look at all the background items in the desert, the dungeon, and the Genies levels for example) and you can see that Virgin games really put a lot of love into the game, and it shows. You know that it was the third best selling genesis game right?

[obsidianspider]

@flyingtomahawk said in Retro game stuff talk:

The downside of MD is, if you would start to collect all the games now it would cost you a lot, lot money. Acclaim titles are very expensive.

I just learned about Crusader of Centy from SNES drunk. It looks like a really cool game, but it's selling for $500+ on eBay right now...

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@obsidianspider
That does look cool, I've never played that - I'll have to give it a try.

Regarding the price of the games, when the Snes and Megadrive came out I was young and couldn't afford to buy the games because they were expensive - I used to trade them in for new games otherwise I'd rarely have anything new to play (there were some exception that I never traded though). Now I'm older the games are rarer and even more expensive so I still can't afford them so not much has changed :D .

[SgtJimmyRustles]

Wow, that game is pretty legit. Easily looks like it has SNES visuals in my opinion.

@ruckage said in Retro game stuff talk:

@obsidianspider
That does look cool, I've never played that - I'll have to give it a try.

Regarding the price of the games, when the Snes and Megadrive came out I was young and couldn't afford to buy the games because they were expensive - I used to trade them in for new games otherwise I'd rarely have anything new to play (there were some exception that I never traded though). Now I'm older the games are rarer and even more expensive so I still can't afford them so not much has changed :D .

You know what game I miss? Eternal Champions. And that was actually gorier than Mortal Kombat.

[MrJordaaany]

@ruckage Will do!

@obsidianspider looks like a cool game alright. Will note it down for later.

[FlyingTomahawk]

@ruckage
Wonder why the US version of the Centy game cost around $500 and the Japanese version only a fraction of it like $30. And besides I always had my issues with those retro game price policies. Who defines them? I mean I could put Sonic on ebay for $1000 does that make Sonic a 1000 bucks game?
I can accept if a game has been actually sold for such a price but anything else is just a fluke, right?
I keep seing high priced games on ebay but rarely see one go for such high price.

[obsidianspider]

@flyingtomahawk US games go for a lot more because most people don’t know how to read Japanese. If I could I’d totally be buying the Japanese versions of games.

[celly]

@obsidianspider you and me both. Like @FlyingTomahawk was saying, the Japanese releases are usually a fraction of the price. Plus there are a lot of games I really wish I could understand that never got a US release or in English.

[ruckage]

@flyingtomahawk
I guess a game is worth what people are willing to pay for it. I normally check sold listings on ebay to get a realistic idea of how much items are worth, some people list items with unrealistically high prices but no one ever buys them so they aren't worth the asking price.

@obsidianspider
The Centry game is know as Soleil in Europe, and the price it sells for ranges from £40 - £80. There is a copy for sale in Germany at the moment for £26.93. Not sure if you can select English as a language option though in the German version.

[FlyingTomahawk]

@ruckage
So a game gets his current value on the price sold.
So let's say you and me are gonna raise a price for let's say Game A. So I put Game A on eBay or somewhere where it gets a lot of attention for a ridiculous price. Then you as my friend purchase that item. (but don't really pay me) I then cancel the deal on eBay or even pay the eBay fee just to keep the price high. Then from that day on that game has such value because it was sold for that high price. Right? We could even repeat that procedure a few more times with fake accounts.
I know I am overthinking it but it just boggles my mind to think in a time where cheating is normal as drinking water. I have seen auctions go higher in price because the seller asked 1-2 friends to place fake bids.
When I go around the Japanese game stores I can see some still have the same rare games for the same ridiculous price for the past 10 years! So that would mean that THAT game should actually loose its value since it hasn't been sold for such high price for the past 10 years. Or not?

IMO that is all stupid price policy. I understand if there is a game only printed/made 10-50 pieces world wide and they are rare because there are simply not many around but seeing a $300+ game over 10 times within 1 year sold by different stores does smell not right to me.