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    Operating System update: Raspbian Stretch is out!

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    • dankcushionsD
      dankcushions Global Moderator
      last edited by dankcushions

      https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbian-stretch/

      i'm not sure what benefits this will bring to retropie, but i'm interested in the new GCC 6 compiler, which may bring (probably minor) speed improvements.

      i believe raspbian is still 32-bit, but debian officially supports ARM64, now, so perhaps going 64-bit is a little easier?

      plus there's the open source VC4 GPU driver, which may be worth re-investigating. i have no clue about the state of that now!

      WARNING! updating an existing retropie installation is very likely to cause problems - you will be better to wait for a new official Retropie image

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      • herb_fargusH
        herb_fargus administrators @dankcushions
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        @dankcushions benefits for me are ffmpeg in the upstream repos so no longer a need for me to compile it manually. Which also means we can compile RetroArch with ffmpeg so recording videos will be easier to integrate

        If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

        Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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        • BuZzB
          BuZz administrators @dankcushions
          last edited by BuZz

          @dankcushions said in Operating System update: Raspbian Stretch is out!:

          i believe raspbian is still 32-bit, but debian officially supports ARM64, now, so perhaps going 64-bit is a little easier?

          There are RPI driver issues afaik to move to 64bit (or something like that), but there will be no advantage for retropie - in fact there would likely be a disadvantage as many emulators have armv7/neon optimisations that would not work on aarch64 (they would need to be rewritten).

          I will look into adding stretch support soon.

          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          • RascasR
            Rascas @BuZz
            last edited by Rascas

            @buzz I am sure you already know, this libraries (at least) need a recompile for stretch:
            libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsdl2-2.0-0 libsdl2-dev
            Kodi also needs a recompile for stretch to not cause dependencies issues (the packages only are removed, not the settings, how it is now), i am taking a look at it, it will probably be 17.4 RC, it would be better if 17.4 stable came out in the next few days.

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            • lilbudL
              lilbud @BuZz
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              Could RetroPie be installed on Stretch as it stands?

              Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

              Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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              • BuZzB
                BuZz administrators @Rascas
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                @rascas yep.

                To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                • BuZzB
                  BuZz administrators @lilbud
                  last edited by

                  @lilbud not without issues.

                  To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    gaavoid
                    last edited by gaavoid

                    If I was to update retropie setup script and then update all installed packages including OS/kernels, would this install stretch? And I should avoid doing so right?

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                    • NastyButtler322N
                      NastyButtler322 @dankcushions
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                      @dankcushions I want to try Debian's arm 64 version. I didn't know it was complete. I liked openSuse's 64 bit version well enough. I was doing a Linux from scratch build from openSuse, until I realized that I don't know how booting on the pi works lol. I think I read that its a proprietary boot loader? I don't remember now.

                      Wazzz up

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                        Stiffler @gaavoid
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                        @gaavoid I updated my Pi 3 retropie (including updating the OS) a few hours ago and it remained on Jessie after the update. If I remember the only OS updates were a few firmware packages. My system works fine after updating, hope this helps.

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                          psyke83 Global Moderator @Stiffler
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                          @stiffler said in Operating System update: Raspbian Stretch is out!:

                          @gaavoid I updated my Pi 3 retropie (including updating the OS) a few hours ago and it remained on Jessie after the update. If I remember the only OS updates were a few firmware packages. My system works fine after updating, hope this helps.

                          You have to edit sources.list manually or else it won't do a proper distribution upgrade. That's good, because stretch isn't compatible yet. Emulationstation won't compile properly, so don't do the update until everything's ready.

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                            gaavoid @Stiffler
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                            @stiffler @psyke83 Cool, and thanks. Wasn't sure if this was the case.

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                            • CrescendoC
                              Crescendo
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                              and I already upgraded to stretch prior reading this forum....
                              it's very unstable compared to Jessie.....

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                              • herb_fargusH
                                herb_fargus administrators @Crescendo
                                last edited by

                                @cresfang unstable because you upgraded from Jessie or unstable because dependencies aren't met on a fresh build

                                If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                • CrescendoC
                                  Crescendo @herb_fargus
                                  last edited by Crescendo

                                  @herb_fargus no, not the RetroPie that's unstable....
                                  I can't even build the RetroArch & EmulationStation on Stretch, and I'm aware of that you still working on it...

                                  What I mean is the Raspbian Jessie is more stable than Stretch - OS wise, and I do fresh install, not upgrading....
                                  Sorry that my prior post caused confusion...

                                  Fresh as I downloaded the whole image and dd it to sdcard....

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                                    NowArrivingHere
                                    last edited by NowArrivingHere

                                    Well, I already upgraded to Stretch before I saw this. I then did an 'all installed packages update' including underlying OS packages. Emulation station loads just fine for me and most of my many, many packages compile from source with no issues. I have put together a running list of the ones that don't install properly. However, I should note that both Commander Genius and XM7 failed to install properly under Jessie as well, so something is going on there.

                                    https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/12675/various-build-from-source-packages-failing-on-raspbian-stretch

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                                    • herb_fargusH
                                      herb_fargus administrators @NowArrivingHere
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                                      @nowarrivinghere cgenius has a pending PR that works on stretch.

                                      If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                      Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                        NowArrivingHere @herb_fargus
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                                        @herb_fargus

                                        Nice. Hey, do you have any idea when Retropie_setup will reopen for Stretch users? I've just updated my script to 4.2.20 a few minutes ago, and while emulation station and my current packages still work, I can't attempt to install/uninstall packages or use any tools. I get booted out of retropie_setup.sh with a message saying Stretch is not supported.

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                                        • BuZzB
                                          BuZz administrators @NowArrivingHere
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                                          @nowarrivinghere there is no ETA.

                                          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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