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    Pussyfoot @barbudreadmon
    last edited by 18 Nov 2017, 19:05

    @barbudreadmon It doesn't run fine with the speed hack. It runs better, but not as well as in MAME. Also, the speed hack affects other games, yes?

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      Darksavior
      last edited by Darksavior 18 Nov 2017, 19:37

      Konami 4p games has slowdowns on latest fba. More noticable on a pi2 at 1ghz. They're fine in fba 2012. Not sure if this is due to being more accurate or a bug.

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        barbudreadmon @Pussyfoot
        last edited by 18 Nov 2017, 20:00

        @pussyfoot @Darksavior All of them run at full speed on my rpi3 @1.3Ghz.

        Yes, i suppose if you have older/slower hardware, it is better to use older software.

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          RedBatman @UDb23
          last edited by 18 Nov 2017, 20:25

          @udb23 Well it does. Most of every game I use for FBA are MAME and they work jusr fine. Of course they are mostly fighting games

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            UDb23 @RedBatman
            last edited by 18 Nov 2017, 21:11

            @redbatman said in FBA vs. MAME:

            Most of every game I use for FBA are MAME and they work jusr fine

            ROMS in the end are just different versions of dumps of the actual real game ROMS.

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              RedBatman @UDb23
              last edited by 18 Nov 2017, 23:04

              @udb23 Huh, did not know that. Thanks

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                AndersHP
                last edited by 21 Nov 2017, 18:48

                Just tried getting the newest FBA version of Gyruss and replacing the rom file with this. Strangely it still booted with MAME2003 as the default emulator and worked. Should this be possible? Couldn't tell any difference though...

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                  UDb23 @AndersHP
                  last edited by 21 Nov 2017, 18:56

                  @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                  Should this be possible?

                  Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years. So even being part of different ROM sets the actual files contained in the zip are the same.
                  Same happened to me with Space Invaders if I remember well: working with multiple cores.
                  If there is any improvement on these games with newer versions of the cores is on the emulation (code) side.

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                    AndersHP @UDb23
                    last edited by 22 Nov 2017, 07:30

                    @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                    Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

                    OK, makes sense.
                    The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

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                      dankcushions Global Moderator @AndersHP
                      last edited by 22 Nov 2017, 10:44

                      @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

                      OK, makes sense.
                      The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

                      yes, they are different emulators so have different internal mappings.

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                        barbudreadmon @AndersHP
                        last edited by 22 Nov 2017, 13:55

                        @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

                        OK, makes sense.
                        The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

                        Are you still talking about Gyruss ? This is a 1 button game, so the button is mapped to the retropad B button in fbalpha, which is the bottom button in a normal setup (see https://wiki.libretro.com/index.php?title=RetroPad). If it's not for you, either your controller is not properly mapped, or you have some remapping messing things up.

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                          AndersHP @barbudreadmon
                          last edited by 22 Nov 2017, 20:29

                          @barbudreadmon Yes, still Gyruss. I'm not having any retroarch mappings in either the fba or arcade folder. Only the one in the all folder..

                          My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                          My Gameboy

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                            arcadez2003
                            last edited by arcadez2003 22 Nov 2017, 21:36

                            You also gotta keep in mind with regards to FBA the MAME code the drivers are built from is newer in some cases bang upto date, although game support
                            and performance are important keep in mind alotta games are better emulated in FBA vs older MAME for example protection simulation code vs proper
                            dumps of the Protection MCU chips and data, Bubble Bobble springs to mind the enemy movements and logic for example will be totally wrong in older
                            MAME but 100% correct in FBA something to consider ;)

                            Not sure if you guys have an Raine port..?? but that would open up a whole new catagory around performance as with some games that emulator
                            beats all others hands down :)

                            Arcade Addict

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                              barbudreadmon @AndersHP
                              last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 06:52

                              @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                              @barbudreadmon Yes, still Gyruss. I'm not having any retroarch mappings in either the fba or arcade folder. Only the one in the all folder..

                              What's your exact version of lr-fbalpha ?

                              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                AndersHP @barbudreadmon
                                last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 13:13

                                @barbudreadmon Just updated yesterday, so I guess it would be 0.2.97.42 like the romset, the game's from.

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                                  AndersHP
                                  last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 18:38

                                  Could anyone test Gunbird and Gunbird 2?
                                  I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering in graphics and sound on both MAME2003 and FBA...

                                  My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                  My Gameboy

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                                    barbudreadmon @AndersHP
                                    last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 19:36

                                    @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                    Could anyone test Gunbird and Gunbird 2?
                                    I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering in graphics and sound on both MAME2003 and FBA...

                                    Both games run at full speed with fba on my pi3@1.3Ghz, for gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.
                                    Gyruss fire button is properly mapped to retropad B.

                                    Give some information on your setup (rpi version ? overclocked ? fba version ? controllers you are using ? autoconfig ? mapped manually ? ... ), and perhaps we'll be able to help.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      UDb23 @barbudreadmon
                                      last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 20:22

                                      @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                      gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.

                                      Good to know, thanks. Will add these tips in the global "best core" xls file.

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                                        MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
                                        last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 20:26

                                        @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

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                                          barbudreadmon @MrJordaaany
                                          last edited by 23 Nov 2017, 21:28

                                          @mrjordaaany said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

                                          You can see the exact version of the running core at the bottom left of the retroarch menu

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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