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    • AndersHPA
      AndersHP @UDb23
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      @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

      Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

      OK, makes sense.
      The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

      My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
      My Gameboy

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      • dankcushionsD
        dankcushions Global Moderator @AndersHP
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        @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

        @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

        Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

        OK, makes sense.
        The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

        yes, they are different emulators so have different internal mappings.

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          barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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          @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

          @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

          Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

          OK, makes sense.
          The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

          Are you still talking about Gyruss ? This is a 1 button game, so the button is mapped to the retropad B button in fbalpha, which is the bottom button in a normal setup (see https://wiki.libretro.com/index.php?title=RetroPad). If it's not for you, either your controller is not properly mapped, or you have some remapping messing things up.

          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          • AndersHPA
            AndersHP @barbudreadmon
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            @barbudreadmon Yes, still Gyruss. I'm not having any retroarch mappings in either the fba or arcade folder. Only the one in the all folder..

            My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
            My Gameboy

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            • arcadez2003A
              arcadez2003
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              You also gotta keep in mind with regards to FBA the MAME code the drivers are built from is newer in some cases bang upto date, although game support
              and performance are important keep in mind alotta games are better emulated in FBA vs older MAME for example protection simulation code vs proper
              dumps of the Protection MCU chips and data, Bubble Bobble springs to mind the enemy movements and logic for example will be totally wrong in older
              MAME but 100% correct in FBA something to consider ;)

              Not sure if you guys have an Raine port..?? but that would open up a whole new catagory around performance as with some games that emulator
              beats all others hands down :)

              Arcade Addict

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                barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                @barbudreadmon Yes, still Gyruss. I'm not having any retroarch mappings in either the fba or arcade folder. Only the one in the all folder..

                What's your exact version of lr-fbalpha ?

                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                • AndersHPA
                  AndersHP @barbudreadmon
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                  @barbudreadmon Just updated yesterday, so I guess it would be 0.2.97.42 like the romset, the game's from.

                  My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                  My Gameboy

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                  • AndersHPA
                    AndersHP
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                    Could anyone test Gunbird and Gunbird 2?
                    I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering in graphics and sound on both MAME2003 and FBA...

                    My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                    My Gameboy

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                      barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                      @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      Could anyone test Gunbird and Gunbird 2?
                      I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering in graphics and sound on both MAME2003 and FBA...

                      Both games run at full speed with fba on my pi3@1.3Ghz, for gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.
                      Gyruss fire button is properly mapped to retropad B.

                      Give some information on your setup (rpi version ? overclocked ? fba version ? controllers you are using ? autoconfig ? mapped manually ? ... ), and perhaps we'll be able to help.

                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                      • UDb23U
                        UDb23 @barbudreadmon
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                        @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.

                        Good to know, thanks. Will add these tips in the global "best core" xls file.

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                        • MrJordaaanyM
                          MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
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                          @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

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                            barbudreadmon @MrJordaaany
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                            @mrjordaaany said in FBA vs. MAME:

                            @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

                            You can see the exact version of the running core at the bottom left of the retroarch menu

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            • MrJordaaanyM
                              MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
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                              @barbudreadmon Of course. Thanks!

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                                Pussyfoot
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                                I caught one more rom that was in FBA that is better suited for MAME: Ms. Pacman.

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                                  GreenHawk84 @Pussyfoot
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                                  @pussyfoot you mean Mame2003?

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                                    Pussyfoot @GreenHawk84
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                                    @greenhawk84 Yes. If you go through my lists, Ms Pacman appears on the FBA list. I moved it to MAME2003.

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                                    • danielmewhouseD
                                      danielmewhouse
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                                      In my opinion, mame is better if you have the right combo of emulator+rom, what is hard to match sometimes. FBA is way more compatible than Mame, when Mame focus on perfection.

                                      It's no use!!! Take this!!!

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                                      • DarksaviorD
                                        Darksavior @danielmewhouse
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                                        @danielmewhouse Except mame2003 is from 2003 and fba is from a few months ago. The emulation is a decade+ newer. Fba is my main emulator unless a game runs slow or it's not supported.

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                                        • MrJordaaanyM
                                          MrJordaaany
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                                          mame2003 is more reference to the romset from that era these days. The emulator is still actively developed making new games compatible with it.

                                          mame2003 is good, because you just need the mame2003 romset and has alot of compatible roms. The romset doesn't need to be updated or change like other rom sets.

                                          Meanwhile you can benifit from all the changes they make to the mame2003 emulator fork for retropie :)

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                                            barbudreadmon @danielmewhouse
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                                            @danielmewhouse FBA team is mainly interested in the final result, MAME team is mainly interested in following the "official recipe". I wouldn't say current MAME is more "perfect" than current FBA, on some games the final result in current FBA is clearly better, sometimes they even hack around to fix a bug present in the rom (which is something MAME won't do due to its policy)
                                            I think @gamez-fan posted a list of games that are better in fba not long ago.

                                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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