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    • DarksaviorD
      Darksavior
      last edited by Darksavior

      Konami 4p games has slowdowns on latest fba. More noticable on a pi2 at 1ghz. They're fine in fba 2012. Not sure if this is due to being more accurate or a bug.

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        barbudreadmon @Pussyfoot
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        @pussyfoot @Darksavior All of them run at full speed on my rpi3 @1.3Ghz.

        Yes, i suppose if you have older/slower hardware, it is better to use older software.

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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        • RedBatmanR
          RedBatman @UDb23
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          @udb23 Well it does. Most of every game I use for FBA are MAME and they work jusr fine. Of course they are mostly fighting games

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          • UDb23U
            UDb23 @RedBatman
            last edited by

            @redbatman said in FBA vs. MAME:

            Most of every game I use for FBA are MAME and they work jusr fine

            ROMS in the end are just different versions of dumps of the actual real game ROMS.

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            • RedBatmanR
              RedBatman @UDb23
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              @udb23 Huh, did not know that. Thanks

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              • AndersHPA
                AndersHP
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                Just tried getting the newest FBA version of Gyruss and replacing the rom file with this. Strangely it still booted with MAME2003 as the default emulator and worked. Should this be possible? Couldn't tell any difference though...

                My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                My Gameboy

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                • UDb23U
                  UDb23 @AndersHP
                  last edited by

                  @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                  Should this be possible?

                  Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years. So even being part of different ROM sets the actual files contained in the zip are the same.
                  Same happened to me with Space Invaders if I remember well: working with multiple cores.
                  If there is any improvement on these games with newer versions of the cores is on the emulation (code) side.

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                  • AndersHPA
                    AndersHP @UDb23
                    last edited by

                    @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                    Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

                    OK, makes sense.
                    The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

                    My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                    My Gameboy

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                    • dankcushionsD
                      dankcushions Global Moderator @AndersHP
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                      @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

                      OK, makes sense.
                      The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

                      yes, they are different emulators so have different internal mappings.

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                        barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                        @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        @udb23 said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        Yes, various older ("classic") arcade ROM dumps have not changed over the years.

                        OK, makes sense.
                        The key mapping is different in FBA though. Even though I'm only utilizing the retroarch.cfg in the ALL folder, FBA uses the Y/X buttons instead of the A/B buttons. Seems odd, but... * shrugs *

                        Are you still talking about Gyruss ? This is a 1 button game, so the button is mapped to the retropad B button in fbalpha, which is the bottom button in a normal setup (see https://wiki.libretro.com/index.php?title=RetroPad). If it's not for you, either your controller is not properly mapped, or you have some remapping messing things up.

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                        • AndersHPA
                          AndersHP @barbudreadmon
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                          @barbudreadmon Yes, still Gyruss. I'm not having any retroarch mappings in either the fba or arcade folder. Only the one in the all folder..

                          My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                          My Gameboy

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                          • arcadez2003A
                            arcadez2003
                            last edited by arcadez2003

                            You also gotta keep in mind with regards to FBA the MAME code the drivers are built from is newer in some cases bang upto date, although game support
                            and performance are important keep in mind alotta games are better emulated in FBA vs older MAME for example protection simulation code vs proper
                            dumps of the Protection MCU chips and data, Bubble Bobble springs to mind the enemy movements and logic for example will be totally wrong in older
                            MAME but 100% correct in FBA something to consider ;)

                            Not sure if you guys have an Raine port..?? but that would open up a whole new catagory around performance as with some games that emulator
                            beats all others hands down :)

                            Arcade Addict

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                              barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                              @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                              @barbudreadmon Yes, still Gyruss. I'm not having any retroarch mappings in either the fba or arcade folder. Only the one in the all folder..

                              What's your exact version of lr-fbalpha ?

                              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              • AndersHPA
                                AndersHP @barbudreadmon
                                last edited by

                                @barbudreadmon Just updated yesterday, so I guess it would be 0.2.97.42 like the romset, the game's from.

                                My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                My Gameboy

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                                • AndersHPA
                                  AndersHP
                                  last edited by

                                  Could anyone test Gunbird and Gunbird 2?
                                  I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering in graphics and sound on both MAME2003 and FBA...

                                  My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                  My Gameboy

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                                    barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                                    @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                    Could anyone test Gunbird and Gunbird 2?
                                    I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering in graphics and sound on both MAME2003 and FBA...

                                    Both games run at full speed with fba on my pi3@1.3Ghz, for gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.
                                    Gyruss fire button is properly mapped to retropad B.

                                    Give some information on your setup (rpi version ? overclocked ? fba version ? controllers you are using ? autoconfig ? mapped manually ? ... ), and perhaps we'll be able to help.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                    • UDb23U
                                      UDb23 @barbudreadmon
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                                      @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                      gunbird2 you need to enable the speedhack in the dipswitches.

                                      Good to know, thanks. Will add these tips in the global "best core" xls file.

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                                      • MrJordaaanyM
                                        MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
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                                        @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

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                                          barbudreadmon @MrJordaaany
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                                          @mrjordaaany said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          @barbudreadmon Once you have updated FBA and Mame2003, what's the best way to check what version the emulator is once installed?

                                          You can see the exact version of the running core at the bottom left of the retroarch menu

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          • MrJordaaanyM
                                            MrJordaaany @barbudreadmon
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                                            @barbudreadmon Of course. Thanks!

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