Make Start stop killing the game!! For the life of me I can't get it to stop killing it.

mitu · 10 Apr 2018, 03:23

@bog The hotkey does nothing by itself, so you should be able to use Select as hotkey without problems. I've played Metroid and had no problems switching to missile.
Anyway, if you don't wish to have a Hotley, you can just skip its assignment, but don't use Start as Hotkey and you'll not have the problems you describe.

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 03:38

@mitu Wait you're saying that in metroid you were pressing select and it wasn't causing metroid to stop?

mitu · 10 Apr 2018, 03:43

@bog said in Make Start stop killing the game!! For the life of me I can't get it to stop killing it.:

it wasn't causing metroid to stop?

Why should it cause it to stop ? Map your input properly and you'll not have any of these problems.

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 03:51

@mitu It goes back to the game menu. That doesn't happen with you? I mean then what's the point of hotkeys, what are they supposed to do?

mitu · 10 Apr 2018, 03:53

@bog said in Make Start stop killing the game!! For the life of me I can't get it to stop killing it.:

That doesn't happen with you?

No, it does not happen. As I said, it works as it should. As for the hotkeys - https://retropie.org.uk/docs/RetroArch-Configuration/#hotkeys.

Hyruleslink · 10 Apr 2018, 03:53

@bog Think of the hotkey like a shift or ctrl button on a keyboard. Pressed on its own it does nothing. Combined it serves as a function.

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 04:06

@hyruleslink No that's not what's happening right now. I just switched the controller to make it select (in the normal menu). Now whenever I'm in a game an press select I get that green configuration screen.

mitu · 10 Apr 2018, 04:20

@bog said in Make Start stop killing the game!! For the life of me I can't get it to stop killing it.:

No that's not what's happening right now

What controller are you using ? The RGUI (the menu you're seeing) appears when you press Hotkey + X, either your X key is stuck or you mapped your input wrong again.

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 04:24

@mitu Yea you're right- in the process of trying to stop the damn start button problem, I had remapped other hotkeys to use select. I just went in and undid what I had done. Woo! It works, thanks guys! Lesson learned for others: you can't use start as your main hotkey.

MajorDangerNine · 5 Apr 2018, 18:03

@bog I do. As an example, here is my config for my iBuffalo SNES-style controllers. ~~Due to issues with ghost inputs in the past, I disabled most of the hotkeys: I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what is put there in place of my "nul" entries as long as it isn't a valid entry.~~ Updated this because I ain't afraid of no ghost inputs.

input_device = "USB,2-axis 8-button gamepad "
input_driver = "udev"
input_l_btn = "4"
input_load_state_axis = "-1"
input_start_btn = "7"
input_exit_emulator_btn = "2"
input_down_axis = "+1"
input_r_btn = "5"
input_save_state_axis = "+1"
input_right_axis = "+0"
input_state_slot_increase_axis = "+0"
input_select_btn = "6"
input_left_axis = "-0"
input_state_slot_decrease_axis = "-0"
input_up_axis = "-1"
input_a_btn = "0"
input_b_btn = "1"
input_reset_btn = "0"
input_enable_hotkey_btn = "6"
input_x_btn = "2"
input_menu_toggle_btn = "4"
input_y_btn = "3"
input_toggle_fast_forward_btn = "5"

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 05:33

@eckaji said in Make Start stop killing the game!! For the life of me I can't get it to stop killing it.:

@bog I do. As an example, here is my config for my iBuffalo SNES-style controllers. Due to issues with ghost inputs in the past, I disabled most of the hotkeys: I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what is put there in place of my "nul" entries as long as it isn't a valid entry.

Oh I have one of those Buffalos NES controllers too (Well mine doesn't say "iBuffalo", just "Buffalo"). And yea, nul normally has two l's haha.

I guess my last step is to figure out how to change up the buttons for regular NES, because right now, the A and B are kind of awkward for NES but if I made them Y and B they'd be much more comfortable. (And for gameboy advance too.) I'm not gonna bother with SEGA, btw- I never played those games and I figure 2000 games is enough to keep my old dad occupied (I'm making this for my dad, he's old and bored.)

Hey so if you know it off the top of your head- can you point me at the docs and say RTFM to make console-specific mappings? I remember it was in there but I can't remember where.

(btw what are "ghost" inputs?)

Thanks again. I just tried N64 game and it was choking on it- I guess that's not the pi's fault, it's the gfx "card", it's not made to do 3D stuff. Oh well too bad, it's still damn cool,

bog

bog · 4 Oct 2018, 06:36

@eckaji oh hell my comment was just flagged as spam. Can you see it? The one that starts with "Oh I have one of those Buffalo..."

MajorDangerNine · 10 Apr 2018, 12:31

@bog

Oh I have one of those Buffalos NES controllers too (Well mine doesn't say "iBuffalo", just "Buffalo").

I think that might mean you have the later production of them. I've heard those are sturdier. Maybe even better made to avoid the ghost inputs issue.

And yea, nul normally has two l's haha.

Yeah, I think I might finally fix that. Make one less thing on the internet wrong even if it is a minor thing.

I guess my last step is to figure out how to change up the buttons for regular NES, because right now, the A and B are kind of awkward for NES but if I made them Y and B they'd be much more comfortable. (And for gameboy advance too.)

That's what I do for all my two and one button systems. I think I even rotated face buttons once to the left on the 16-bit Sega systems.

Hey so if you know it off the top of your head- can you point me at the docs and say RTFM to make console-specific mappings? I remember it was in there but I can't remember where.

https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/RetroArch-Configuration#core-input-remapping

(btw what are "ghost" inputs?)

It's just a term people use for controllers that randomly fire off an input or if an input is being held without the button being pressed. One of my controllers exhibited it months ago, but I haven't seen it since I disabled the on-board bluetooth and on-board wi-fi; I've just become so used to my current setup for that controller that I don't want to change.

Thanks again.

Welcome.

I just tried N64 game and it was choking on it- I guess that's not the pi's fault, it's the gfx "card", it's not made to do 3D stuff. Oh well too bad, it's still damn cool,

Yeah, you have to be willing to not mind the moderate amount of graphics and sound glitches as well as the moderate amount of slowdown. Personally, I can't do that.

cosmo0 · 10 Apr 2018, 13:34

@bog said in Make Start stop killing the game!! For the life of me I can't get it to stop killing it.:

@mitu I mean then what's the point of hotkeys, what are they supposed to do?

The hotkey is a modifier, like CTRL, SHIFT or ALT. It does nothing by itself.

There are various controls assigned to HOTKEY + another button, and "HOTKEY + START" exits to the main menu.

Assigning the hotkey to "start" is like assigning "ALT" to "F4" on a Windows machine or : every time you press F4, your app would close.

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 19:28

@eckaji Thanks, the link to the docs worked perfectly. I'm good to go. I guess I might buy a newer pi because Mortal kombat is slow on snes. Maybe that will let me play n64 games but I guess that's a graphics "card" issue.

Oh and yea, it's a brand new buffalo controller, so far, so good.

Anyway, thanks, this is cool stuff!

bog · 10 Apr 2018, 23:08

Wait, no, it didn't work perfectly. It doesn't "remember" my keymapping for nintendo games. And you're probably thinking I don't have "Save Configuration on Exit" set to On. Nope, I totally have it set to on, and it never remembers.

MajorDangerNine · 4 Nov 2018, 00:48

@bog

And you're probably thinking I don't have "Save Configuration on Exit" set to On. Nope, I totally have it set to on, and it never remembers.

That page I linked to didn't say to do that... and the only mention of it on the page explicitly says to never turn it on...

Anyway, as far as I know... from experience, turning on "Save Configuration on Exit" in RetroArch is something that breaks the way the RetroPie developers have things set up entirely.

No idea how to fix it short of restarting from scratch and not doing that again. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your only hope of avoiding that is for someone else here to offer a quick fix for what you've done.

bog · 4 Nov 2018, 09:51

@eckaji Ok, nope, you're wrong. I just reinstalled everything, SCP'd the roms, and rebooted. I went into Super Mario Bro's, did select-X, changed the buttons maps, went back to the game, and then quit it with select-start.

When I went back into the game, my remapping didn't stick.

And no, Save Configuration on Exit was/is set to "Off".

That's literally ALL I did. The only thing I did. It's a virgin install.

cosmo0 · 11 Apr 2018, 08:54

@bog Why are you changing the button maps from the Retroarch menu?

At the EmulationStation menu (the first screen you get after booting), press start, configure input, then press the buttons as prompted. When asked for the hotkey, press select.

bog · 11 Apr 2018, 10:26

@cosmo0 I only want the mapping to change for Nintendo games specifically.