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MAME ROW #120 - Cabal

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    thelostsoul @pjft
    last edited by thelostsoul 16 Jan 2019, 23:47

    @pjft The base version in FBA is actually a patched version working with joysticks. The roll is done through button press, I tested it. On FBA everything works fine. Mame2003 seems to be a prior base version without Joystick support, but did not test it. Mame2010 seems to be the same version as FBA, did not test it. I might change it back to Mame2010, as I like older games to be on Mame and newer games to be on FBA.

    FBA = Cabal (World, Joystick)
    Mame2003 = Cabal (US set 1)
    Mame2010 = Cabal (World, Joystick version)

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      GtBFilms @thelostsoul
      last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 00:25

      I'm actually playing this one on my PC, which is running MAME 0.146.

      On that my third button is mapped to the roll action.

      Although by the time I remember to use it, it's generally too late!

      The only tactics I have so far are:

      When I see a helicopter, I concentrate on that.
      Ignore the grey grenade throwers running around until they start to throw as you can't shoot them until then.
      Shoot the stretcher bearers multiple times to stock up on grenades.
      When I see the plane, I get well out the way.
      On the third area, I always destroy those KEEP OUT gates at the back first, as once they are destroyed, you don't get the two grenade throwing guys popping out from behind them any more.

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        VictimRLSH
        last edited by VictimRLSH 17 Jan 2019, 05:58

        Cabal is another of my all time faves, but played the trackball version in arcade. There are more 'sudden' moves than just the roll. You can also jump left, right, and straight up, as well as roll in place without moving left or right.

        System Config: Retropie 4.4 with full desktop, RPi 3B, 256gb SD, 5v 2.1A 5,200 mAH USB battery. EasyMSX controller mounted with Pimoroni Hyperpixel 4 (non touch). Also running 4.6 on a 4gb Pi 4 serving as my primary desktop computer now.

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          obsidianspider
          last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 12:47

          This week's winner is Cabal

          Screen Shot 2019-01-17 at 7.46.16 AM.png

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          📷 @obsidianspider

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            GtBFilms
            last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 14:34

            I'll set the cabal(l) rolling...

            884170 (stage 3-1)

            cabal.jpg

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              pjft @GtBFilms
              last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 14:55

              @GtBFilms you could at least have waited a bit for us novices to give it a shot before posting this score. This way we're starting with our hopes already crushed :D

              That's a fantastic score!

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                thelostsoul @GtBFilms
                last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 16:44

                @GtBFilms Wow, that looks awesome score! To be fair, I never played the game and don't know if its high, but I believe in @pjft when he says it is fantastic. 😂 Let's see how long you can stand there until we tear apart your score.
                (Google translator was used, if something sounds weird, that's even better.)

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                  GtBFilms
                  last edited by GtBFilms 17 Jan 2019, 18:00

                  To be fair, it seemed a bit easier than I remember from the arcade. Probably having roll as a button instead of needing a spin on the trackball makes it easier - you are immune to everything, including tank shells, while rolling.

                  It's a shame this game reveals all its tricks (powerups and destroyable terrain) on the first stage, apart from the end of level boss, nothing much changes - and even the level 2 boss just seems to be a variation of the level 1 one.

                  My new tactic is to take out the trucks full of enemy soldiers before they get a chance to deploy - those are more trouble than even helicopters and tanks, as they have multiple enemies shooting in various directions, the helicopters and tanks shoot in a predictable manner and can be avoided (although it's still best to take them out before they get to shoot if possible)

                  I stockpiled grenades by shooting stretcher bearers then used as many as required on the bosses - throwing three grenades as a time in bursts meant the level 1 boss didn't even get a chance to return fire .

                  It just got too hectic by the third level to keep track of everything going on!

                  A great fun blaster though. I remember thinking at the time in the arcades that the comical run and music atbthebsend of each stage was out of place for such a game, but now I quite like it - gives the game a bit of character!

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                    pjft @GtBFilms
                    last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 21:57

                    @GtBFilms thanks for the precious tips!

                    My first attempt are a measly 212k, stage 1-4, even before the first boss. I'll try more in the coming days!

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                      pjft @pjft
                      last edited by 19 Jan 2019, 22:10

                      @GtBFilms so, today I played a few more times and reached stage 2-1, scoring 440,630. Still nowhere close to your score :D

                      I'm curious about your statement about "I stockpiled grenades by shooting stretcher bearers then used as many as required on the bosses - throwing three grenades as a time in bursts meant the level 1 boss didn't even get a chance to return fire .".

                      It takes quite a few grenades to kill the level 1 boss, though, right? That was more of a figure of speech than anything else, I assume?

                      To be fair, though, the level 1 boss probably didn't need grenades, I feel?

                      I'll give it a couple more tries. :)

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                        thelostsoul
                        last edited by thelostsoul 20 Jan 2019, 04:07

                        So hello guys, I had a few runs now and still try to get to stage 1-4. My current score is 144'040 and a screen follows if I improve. It is the first time I play this game, I quite like it (especially the title screen). Let's see if I can catch up. :D

                        EDIT: Ah, now I got it. I have to press fast and short to shoot and if I hold the button, he stops moving. That makes sense, then its fine and the cursor speed is no issue.
                        If I shoot, my character is not able to move. So shooting and moving at same time seems not possible. I have a second question about the cursor speed. I don't know the original game and don't know if my cursor is slow. Did you guys change it somehow or is the default speed authentic?

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                          thelostsoul
                          last edited by 20 Jan 2019, 07:20

                          Finally it is playable to me. Here is what i got, stage: 2-2, score: 518'350

                          cabal-518350.png

                          First screenshot to capture the moment when i died and second one for my name.
                          Something which bugs me: I use autofire, as this is allowed here.

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                            thelostsoul
                            last edited by thelostsoul 20 Jan 2019, 20:53

                            Hello, here comes my improvement. Made it to stage 3-2, even when I lost a life very early in game.
                            Score: 1'001'440 😎

                            cabal-1001440.png

                            Now I like the game.

                            @pjft said in MAME ROW #120 - Cabal:

                            @thelostsoul Stay away from the steak for lunch today. You'll thank me later.

                            Signed: future thelostsoul .

                            Thank you. ;-)

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                              VictimRLSH
                              last edited by 20 Jan 2019, 21:23

                              Those are some HARDCORE scores, great job!

                              System Config: Retropie 4.4 with full desktop, RPi 3B, 256gb SD, 5v 2.1A 5,200 mAH USB battery. EasyMSX controller mounted with Pimoroni Hyperpixel 4 (non touch). Also running 4.6 on a 4gb Pi 4 serving as my primary desktop computer now.

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                                obsidianspider
                                last edited by 21 Jan 2019, 16:01

                                MAME ROW #121 is live!

                                📷 @obsidianspider

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                                  GtBFilms @thelostsoul
                                  last edited by 21 Jan 2019, 17:30

                                  @thelostsoul awesome score!

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                                    pjft
                                    last edited by 22 Jan 2019, 10:31

                                    Well done @thelostsoul and @GtBFilms .

                                    I never made it past my original score of 440k, here's the picture I finally managed to upload.

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                                      thelostsoul
                                      last edited by 31 Jan 2019, 22:46

                                      I know this is for fun only, but I wanted say something about AutoFire. Yes, again this topic. My score is not impressive, because AutoFire really makes it easy. The proof comes from a friend of mine, who struggled to beat my score and I recommended him to enable AutoFire. Suddenly he reached almost double my score.

                                      My conclusion: For the sake of fun (thats the reason we do this), at this place I will not play with AutoFire in the future. It gives an big advantage.

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                                        VictimRLSH @thelostsoul
                                        last edited by 1 Feb 2019, 18:55

                                        @thelostsoul Yeah, autofire here makes it possible to harvest about 20 grenades at a pop.

                                        System Config: Retropie 4.4 with full desktop, RPi 3B, 256gb SD, 5v 2.1A 5,200 mAH USB battery. EasyMSX controller mounted with Pimoroni Hyperpixel 4 (non touch). Also running 4.6 on a 4gb Pi 4 serving as my primary desktop computer now.

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