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The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    quicksilver @Jiryn
    last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:16

    @Jiryn http://blog.flirc.tv/index.php/2019/06/24/new-pi-4-cases/

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      Cornervizion @quicksilver
      last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:23

      @quicksilver I did attempt it back on my Pi2 but this came at the cost of performance. I might try it again shortly on the Pi3.

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        Jiryn
        last edited by Jiryn 24 Jun 2019, 20:26

        https://i.imgur.com/LYwHilL.png
        Here's my current case, yea I couldn't do a fan and heat sinks in it.. but I love the form factor and design.

        Those ones you linked look great!

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          dd0ck
          last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:40

          with the Gigabit ethernet, is having big ROMs (PSX, Dreamcast, etc.) stored on a NAS an option? These little SD cards can only hold so much...

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            ScottyPsArcade
            last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:41

            Killer Instinct 1 and 2?! I'll buy just for that... haha

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              Jiryn @dd0ck
              last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 20:46

              @dd0ck said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

              with the Gigabit ethernet, is having big ROMs (PSX, Dreamcast, etc.) stored on a NAS an option? These little SD cards can only hold so much...

              I got a 500GB in mine, was on sale a few months ago for $50 during an amazon flash sale.

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                deepthaw
                last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:04

                I wonder how feasible running 8/16-bit systems at 4K with crt shaders so we can get non-artifacted scanlines (2160 = 240 * 9, while 1080 = 240 * 4.5).

                I want silly things.

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                  Sandman614
                  last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:06

                  Does this mean no more ghost Bluetooth input??

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                    simpleethat @Headcrab
                    last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:12

                    @Headcrab said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                    I've read in a technical pdf that : the Ethernet packets do not need to be repacked into USB packets anymore, thus latency and processing overhead are decreased on the Pi 4

                    Let's see if this makes even a tiny difference in applications like moonlight or SteamLink.

                    Aside from the increased emulation abilities I'm going to need one because of this alone for a new pi-hole

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                      deepthaw @simpleethat
                      last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:14

                      @simpleethat said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                      @Headcrab said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                      I've read in a technical pdf that : the Ethernet packets do not need to be repacked into USB packets anymore, thus latency and processing overhead are decreased on the Pi 4

                      Let's see if this makes even a tiny difference in applications like moonlight or SteamLink.

                      Aside from the increased emulation abilities I'm going to need one because of this alone for a new pi-hole

                      I'm a bit depressed that the weak link for me in running Steamlink will be my PC rather than my Pi.

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                        cyperghost
                        last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:15

                        Got the Pi4 a power switch now?

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                          shadow
                          last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:24

                          How much do you want to bet that with proper cooling the cpu can reach 2 ghz. Which depending on how strong the GPU is, could be just under the requirements for gamecube.

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                            quicksilver @shadow
                            last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:27

                            @shadow Tom's hardware's review seemed to imply that 1.75ghz is currently the limit determined by the firmware. But perhaps that will change

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                              Ecks @Barcrest
                              last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:50

                              @Barcrest said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                              @frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.

                              His video is here for those that are interested.

                              Just watched that video now and seeing that the GPU is 256mb gives better hope that more emulation might work a lot better and also holding off on buying one right now until there is a new image for RetroPie for this cause i would really like to do some emulation testing on it especially for the more demanding arcade games out there because it would be interesting to see if some games like Tekken Tag Tournament and Tekken 4 work on it as well as other games that you had to overclock the Pi 3B+ for it to work .

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                                mitu Global Moderator @Ecks
                                last edited by 24 Jun 2019, 21:56

                                @Ecks A Pi3 already works with GPU memory set to 256mb, that's not something new. The increased GPU memory (if I understand correctly, limited to 1Gb) would help the front-end more (Emulationstation/Pegasus/Attract-Mode) than the emulation.

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                                  evipaul @shadow
                                  last edited by evipaul 24 Jun 2019, 23:47

                                  @shadow Unless somebody also writes ARM drivers for those external GPUs, and drivers for the Pi to support eGPUs, and probably a bunch of other things that would be a crapton of work creating software that doesn't currently exist, to create a "solution" that costs 10x more, but works really poorly, then I'm not sure we'll be seeing that anytime soon.

                                  ETAPrime on Youtube has the LattePanda running with eGPUs. It's neat if you happen to have the stuff sitting around and want to do it. That's about it.

                                  @quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                  @shadow Tom's hardware's review seemed to imply that 1.75ghz is currently the limit determined by the firmware. But perhaps that will change

                                  A quick Googling suggests ARM was claiming a 28nm A72 core could hit 2.5 GHz. ARM seems to me to be notoriously optimistic in their PR regarding new cores. I couldn't find any actual clockspeeds in shipped products in my brief search. And, of course, those would be in different SoCs, containing different other components, with different frequency/voltage curves than the RPi4's, so it wouldn't be directly comparable. I'll probably look more later.

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                                    BuZz administrators @dd0ck
                                    last edited by 25 Jun 2019, 02:59

                                    @dd0ck I already use a NAS with my older RPI. CD games are not all loaded at once so are fine.

                                    To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                      Marcel @Jiryn
                                      last edited by 25 Jun 2019, 07:39

                                      @Jiryn You'll have to dremel your case already for the Pi 4, so it's just a little more dremeling for this setup. :)

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                                        paffley
                                        last edited by 25 Jun 2019, 10:55

                                        1gb, 2gb or 4gb memory best for emulation? (I ask this as is there a limit to what emulation can use?)

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                                          thelostsoul @paffley
                                          last edited by thelostsoul 25 Jun 2019, 11:02

                                          @paffley Emulators itself don't need much system RAM, so increasing it won't help. More memory can help with other things like the frontend (EmulationStation). My advise is to get 2gb if you really want to use it for emulation with RetroPie only, or just the 1gb if you can't justify the 28% increase in price, while the performance in emulation don't change. But having more (4gb) won't hurt other than your pocket.

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