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    • fluffypillowF
      fluffypillow
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      One day I was in the middle of setting up things, but then started wondering: with all the devices RetroPie can run on, which packages might be available for the different platforms and which ones still missing?

      So I cloned the repo, run through the install scripts, collected their platform flags and put together a little page for listing the packages: https://mmatyas.github.io/retropie-pkgflags/
      Also added a progress bar to give a rough idea about the supported devices: with that it can also act as a progress tracker, which might help with reducing the number of Pi4 questions too.

      Screenshot_2019-12-04_22-13-43.png

      Of course, I can't claim it's 100% accurate, as there are quite a few possible flags affecting whether a package is available on a device or not. The page is there purely for informative purposes. At the moment it's set to follow the fkms branch of RetroPie, and package details are automatically updated about once per day, if there's a change there.

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      • fluffypillowF
        fluffypillow
        last edited by

        Also in case this affects the main devs negatively, feel free to close this thread.

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        • BuZzB
          BuZz administrators @fluffypillow
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          @fluffypillow actually quite interesting. Some stuff will always be platform specific of course. And some stuff although supported may not build still on certain platforms.

          Cheers.

          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          • muldjordM
            muldjord
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            Data is beautiful. This is pretty cool :) Nice work.

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            • simpleethatS
              simpleethat
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              And here I thought this was going to be another "when's it going to be ready" thread and was pleasantly surprised by what I found.

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              • BuZzB
                BuZz administrators
                last edited by

                It also nicely illustrates the number of packages we include in RetroPie and have to manage. It's a very small number of people who have complained loudly about progress. I am thankful for the patience and support of the majority of users.

                To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                  AndrewH
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                  As someone who’s keenly awaiting an “official” Pi4 release, who doesn’t want to be a bother (and I’ve pretty successfully followed the manual install steps anyway), I think this is really interesting.

                  I’d like to understand a little more what I’m looking at in the individual package sections; with respect to the Pi4, which columns are important and which aren’t?

                  Thanks, and keep up the great work!

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                  • herb_fargusH
                    herb_fargus administrators
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                    I've said it and ill keep saying it. Fluffypillow is brilliant.

                    If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                    Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    • BuZzB
                      BuZz administrators @herb_fargus
                      last edited by

                      @herb_fargus fanboy!

                      (I agree)

                      To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                      • simpleethatS
                        simpleethat @BuZz
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                        @BuZz said in Pi 4 support progress and other package infos:

                        @herb_fargus fanboy!

                        (I agree)

                        HAHAHA!

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                        • BuZzB
                          BuZz administrators @fluffypillow
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                          @fluffypillow could be handy to have this as part of RetroPie as an admin module (in the same manner we have for other things like API docs).

                          I had an info module which could output package licenses (was intending to expand it to incorporate other information also) - don't think I committed it actually, but something like this could be included in a similar manner.

                          Just an idea, no pressure to submit anything :-)

                          To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                          • cyperghostC
                            cyperghost @BuZz
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                            @BuZz Are there are any plans to integrate Pegasus into RetroPie (for Pi4) as default frontend?

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                            • fluffypillowF
                              fluffypillow
                              last edited by

                              Well I couldn't stop myself and ended up making a page for the licences too: https://mmatyas.github.io/retropie-pkglicences/

                              Screenshot_2019-12-05_20-13-36.png

                              Now since we're talking about licences, there can even more real life inaccuracies compared to the package flags. The page uses only the info listed in the install scripts, and it cannot decide whether a package has, for example, dual licensing or mixed licences, or cases where a script downloads something (eg. most ES themes are noncommercial).

                              @BuZz sure, I'll see if I can make that the weekend.

                              @AndrewH in the case of Pi 4 the DRM/KMS and the ARMv8 columns are checked. For the others you can see them when you hover over the progress bars (yeah, that part isn't mobile friendly yet).

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                              • mituM
                                mitu Global Moderator @fluffypillow
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                                @fluffypillow That's very cool ! I clicked every link possible and found a few missing/wrong ones. I've also hunt down a few missing license and we'll try to add in a PR.

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                                • herb_fargusH
                                  herb_fargus administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  Now all we need is a graph of the download counts ;)

                                  https://api.github.com/repos/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/releases

                                  If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                  Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                  • SwampyS
                                    Swampy @fluffypillow
                                    last edited by Swampy

                                    @fluffypillow, here is an possible extension for your listing of the packages:

                                    configuration/splash screens (not implemented in Pi 4 yet)
                                    https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/2849
                                    https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/2852

                                    Sorry, found it!

                                    Thank you very much for your hard work!

                                    Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                                    • SwampyS
                                      Swampy
                                      last edited by Swampy

                                      @fluffypillow, frotz is working with rpi4 now.

                                      Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                                      • fluffypillowF
                                        fluffypillow
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                                        Ok, both pages now follow the master branch.

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                                          dmikester1
                                          last edited by dmikester1

                                          On the visual support progress page, do each of the columns with a specific architecture relate to one of the computers in the top chart? Or are they not related like that?

                                          As a follow-up question, so if I wanted to see specifically which pieces still needed to be implemented for full rPI 4 support, which column would I need to look at?

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator @dmikester1
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                                            @dmikester1 said in Pi 4 support progress and other package infos:

                                            On the visual support progress page, do each of the columns with a specific architecture relate to one of the computers in the top chart? Or are they not related like that?

                                            They are related, but there's not a 1:1 mapping - for instance ARMv7 covers both PI2 and Pi3, X11 and x86 are also related but not exclusive.

                                            As a follow-up question, so if I wanted to see specifically which pieces still needed to be implemented for full rPI 4 support, which column would I need to look at?

                                            The PI4 will rely on the KMS/DRM subsystem, so you can take a look at that column. Note that some packages are not working with KMS/DRM and it doesn't mean they'll be implemented for the PI4, so don't take that column as a 'progress'.

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