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    • BuZzB
      BuZz administrators
      last edited by

      It also nicely illustrates the number of packages we include in RetroPie and have to manage. It's a very small number of people who have complained loudly about progress. I am thankful for the patience and support of the majority of users.

      To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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        AndrewH
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        As someone who’s keenly awaiting an “official” Pi4 release, who doesn’t want to be a bother (and I’ve pretty successfully followed the manual install steps anyway), I think this is really interesting.

        I’d like to understand a little more what I’m looking at in the individual package sections; with respect to the Pi4, which columns are important and which aren’t?

        Thanks, and keep up the great work!

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        • herb_fargusH
          herb_fargus administrators
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          I've said it and ill keep saying it. Fluffypillow is brilliant.

          If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

          Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          • BuZzB
            BuZz administrators @herb_fargus
            last edited by

            @herb_fargus fanboy!

            (I agree)

            To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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            • simpleethatS
              simpleethat @BuZz
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              @BuZz said in Pi 4 support progress and other package infos:

              @herb_fargus fanboy!

              (I agree)

              HAHAHA!

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              • BuZzB
                BuZz administrators @fluffypillow
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                @fluffypillow could be handy to have this as part of RetroPie as an admin module (in the same manner we have for other things like API docs).

                I had an info module which could output package licenses (was intending to expand it to incorporate other information also) - don't think I committed it actually, but something like this could be included in a similar manner.

                Just an idea, no pressure to submit anything :-)

                To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                • cyperghostC
                  cyperghost @BuZz
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                  @BuZz Are there are any plans to integrate Pegasus into RetroPie (for Pi4) as default frontend?

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                  • fluffypillowF
                    fluffypillow
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                    Well I couldn't stop myself and ended up making a page for the licences too: https://mmatyas.github.io/retropie-pkglicences/

                    Screenshot_2019-12-05_20-13-36.png

                    Now since we're talking about licences, there can even more real life inaccuracies compared to the package flags. The page uses only the info listed in the install scripts, and it cannot decide whether a package has, for example, dual licensing or mixed licences, or cases where a script downloads something (eg. most ES themes are noncommercial).

                    @BuZz sure, I'll see if I can make that the weekend.

                    @AndrewH in the case of Pi 4 the DRM/KMS and the ARMv8 columns are checked. For the others you can see them when you hover over the progress bars (yeah, that part isn't mobile friendly yet).

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                    • mituM
                      mitu Global Moderator @fluffypillow
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                      @fluffypillow That's very cool ! I clicked every link possible and found a few missing/wrong ones. I've also hunt down a few missing license and we'll try to add in a PR.

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                      • herb_fargusH
                        herb_fargus administrators
                        last edited by

                        Now all we need is a graph of the download counts ;)

                        https://api.github.com/repos/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/releases

                        If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                        Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                        • SwampyS
                          Swampy @fluffypillow
                          last edited by Swampy

                          @fluffypillow, here is an possible extension for your listing of the packages:

                          configuration/splash screens (not implemented in Pi 4 yet)
                          https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/2849
                          https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/2852

                          Sorry, found it!

                          Thank you very much for your hard work!

                          Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                          • SwampyS
                            Swampy
                            last edited by Swampy

                            @fluffypillow, frotz is working with rpi4 now.

                            Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                            • fluffypillowF
                              fluffypillow
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                              Ok, both pages now follow the master branch.

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                                dmikester1
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                                On the visual support progress page, do each of the columns with a specific architecture relate to one of the computers in the top chart? Or are they not related like that?

                                As a follow-up question, so if I wanted to see specifically which pieces still needed to be implemented for full rPI 4 support, which column would I need to look at?

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                                • mituM
                                  mitu Global Moderator @dmikester1
                                  last edited by

                                  @dmikester1 said in Pi 4 support progress and other package infos:

                                  On the visual support progress page, do each of the columns with a specific architecture relate to one of the computers in the top chart? Or are they not related like that?

                                  They are related, but there's not a 1:1 mapping - for instance ARMv7 covers both PI2 and Pi3, X11 and x86 are also related but not exclusive.

                                  As a follow-up question, so if I wanted to see specifically which pieces still needed to be implemented for full rPI 4 support, which column would I need to look at?

                                  The PI4 will rely on the KMS/DRM subsystem, so you can take a look at that column. Note that some packages are not working with KMS/DRM and it doesn't mean they'll be implemented for the PI4, so don't take that column as a 'progress'.

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                                  • fluffypillowF
                                    fluffypillow
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                                    For the record, here are the columns that affect the progress bars:

                                    • Raspberry Pi 0/1: VideoCore + ARMv6
                                    • Raspberry Pi 2: VideoCore + ARMv7
                                    • Raspberry Pi 3: VideoCore + ARMv8
                                    • Raspberry Pi 4: DRM/KMS + ARMv8
                                    • Odroid C1/XU3/XU4: Mali + ARMv7
                                    • Odroid C2: Mali + AArch64
                                    • Desktop Linux: X11 + x68

                                    (This info is also visible when hovering on the progress bars with a mouse.)

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                                      camaro5690
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                                      I am patiently waiting for Pi4 support, I also haven't gone out and purchased one yet. I will get a Pi4 when the Retropie team has gotten there.

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                                        Magnum77 @camaro5690
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                                        @camaro5690 said in Pi 4 support progress and other package infos:

                                        I am patiently waiting for Pi4 support, I also haven't gone out and purchased one yet. I will get a Pi4 when the Retropie team has gotten there.

                                        Same here.. I wonder if they will see a bump up in sales for raspberry pi 4 when retropie got a build for it.

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                                        • DarksaviorD
                                          Darksavior @Magnum77
                                          last edited by Darksavior

                                          @camaro5690 @Magnum77 The weekly dev builds are usable...

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                                          • simpleethatS
                                            simpleethat
                                            last edited by

                                            @fluffypillow thanks again for putting this together. For better or worse it has inspired me to start on a Pi4 build and hopefully learn a bit more about this stuff.

                                            And to the rest of the team keep on doing the amazing stuff that you do.

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