Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]
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@Folly Haha well now I have to figure out how to map the controls, how to swap disks with openmsx, how to save onto the user disk... But the biggest hurdle is past! ^^
Edit : The SCC music is excellent, it's really impressive how much those old school japanese composers managed to squeeze out of 8-bit hardware.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2:
@Folly Haha well now I have to figure out how to map the controls, how to swap disks with openmsx, how to save onto the user disk... But the biggest hurdle is past! ^^
Good luck, most things you can find in the menu.
Music is indeed super.
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@Folly Thank you again for all your help.
Hopefully this thread helps @AdamBeGood too.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@Folly IT WORKS! :D
The Sha1 didn't have to match for FMPAC.ROM and nms8250_disk.rom.
The last Sha1 values you posted have allowed me to get into openmsx, choose the Boosted MSX2, set it as default (this is very important). Then I could boot my .dsk files for SD Snatcher from ES. I put in the Konami extension for SD Snatcher. I'll have to compare with my non-SCC version to be sure but I think it sounds right.@Folly, you are a legend.
Okay, I'll have to do this in the morning or my wife will leave me.
So if I get into OpenMSX by booting up a .ROM game, then I should be able to change the machine type and then load Snatcher. That's my understanding... Well done for getting this sorted, both!
"I put in the Konami extension for SD Snatcher" - is it going to be obvious to me what that means?
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@AdamBeGood Yes - it's under hardware, then extensions. There are a few Konami SCC, one is exclusively for SD Snatcher and is well indicated. You'll know it when you see it and if you don't I can help you with it - in the morning. Don't want to be responsible for your wife leaving you ^^
You'll need to make sure that you have the five files indicated by Folly as well.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood Yes - it's under hardware, then extensions. There are a few Konami SCC, one is exclusively for SD Snatcher and is well indicated. You'll know it when you see it and if you don't I can help you with it - in the morning. Don't want to be responsible for your wife leaving you ^^
You'll need to make sure that you have the five files indicated by Folly as well.
I have all the files with the correct checksums, I managed to get that done last night. I'll report back!
Thanks for the support. :)
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@AdamBeGood No problem. Let me know how you get on. I think you'll find the SCC music to have been worth the effort.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood No problem. Let me know how you get on. I think you'll find the SCC music to have been worth the effort.
It works! For some reason my mouse stopped working almost immediately on OpenMSX but once I got into the menu via the console, it was okay!
I did a quick comparison against my non-SCC version, it is much better! Thanks to you and @Folly - now we should probably play the thing!
Edit - can I save the Konami Extension to happen by default or do I need to set it each time?
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@AdamBeGood I don't think you need to set it each time.
Saving and swapping discs is easy, now the only thing that needs figuring out is how to map F1, F2 and F3 to a joystick.
It's great you could get it to work! Isn't that music awesome?
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood I don't think you need to set it each time.
Saving and swapping discs is easy, now the only thing that needs figuring out is how to map F1, F2 and F3 to a joystick.
It's great you could get it to work! Isn't that music awesome?
Why F1 - F3? Are they the swapping buttons? I've had to work now so can't fiddle.. I don't massively mind having a keyboard plugged in anyway, I always play at my desk.
If I close and then reopen OpenMSX, I have to reload the Extension. It is not there by default.
The music is great!
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@AdamBeGood F1 - F3 are for pausing, saving and loading.
Mind you since you need a mouse and keyboard around to swap to the save disk anyway, it might be a waste of time.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood F1 - F3 are for pausing, saving and loading.
Mind you since you need a mouse and keyboard around to swap to the save disk anyway, it might be a waste of time.
Yeah, maybe a battle that doesn't need fighting!
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Which leads me to wonder - how did people play those games back then? They seem to have joystick support yet joysticks in the early MSX era had very few buttons, certainly not enough to play a game with many possible inputs like Metal Gear.
Did people use the joystick for most of the gameplay, then reverted to the keyboard for more specific functions?
If anybody knows a bit about how actual MSX computers handled gaming, I'm all ears.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
Which leads me to wonder - how did people play those games back then? They seem to have joystick support yet joysticks in the early MSX era had very few buttons, certainly not enough to play a game with many possible inputs like Metal Gear.
Did people use the joystick for most of the gameplay, then reverted to the keyboard for more specific functions?
If anybody knows a bit about how actual MSX computers handled gaming, I'm all ears.
I think that would be the case, yep. I was just looking at the text for the Metal Gear manual.
F4 is "Transceiver", but then the core buttons are given as keyboard and joystick commands. So I think either just Keyboard, or Keyboard and Joystick would be the way.
The joystick would have always been connected to the Keyboard, so it wouldn't have been too much of an inconvenience to use both.
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@AdamBeGood Kind of ironic when you consider that the PC crowds of today wouldn't touch a controller or joystick if their lives depended on it ^^
Thanks for the info!
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood Kind of ironic when you consider that the PC crowds of today wouldn't touch a controller or joystick if their lives depended on it ^^
Thanks for the info!
Hahaha, true!
I am just blaring the music as the missus has gone out. It is so good for the time.
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@AdamBeGood Speaking of ; are you sure you need to set the extension every time you start openMSX?
The SCC music begins automatically for me every time, and it seems to me like once you've added an extension it is supposed to simply stay there.Edit : And yes, the music is incredible, but to be honest the MSX is chock full of great scores. Check out Yuzo Koshiro's score for Xanadu on MSX1, Space Manbow for MSX2, the Gradius/Nemesis games.
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@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
@AdamBeGood Speaking of ; are you sure you need to set the extension every time you start openMSX?
The SCC music begins automatically for me every time, and it seems to me like once you've added an extension it is supposed to simply stay there.If I go to Extensions-> Remove when I first boot, the Snatcher option is not available there. So much assumption is that it isn't added. I can see it as an option once I've added it though.
Edit: the sounds does seem right straight away though.
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Right, I do see what you mean, I have the same issue.
Shall we just chalk it down to another MSX emulator glitch? ^^ I'm just happy to play the game with SCC music (the PSG soundtrack was atrocious). -
@Zering said in Cannot run SD Snatcher, MSX2 [SOLVED]:
Right, I do see what you mean, I have the same issue.
Shall we just chalk it down to another MSX emulator glitch? ^^ I'm just happy to play the game with SCC music (the PSG soundtrack was atrocious).I can't see it makes any difference anyway...
I am just trying out those other games now - I guess these ones are fine just through BlueMSX? No messing with SCC. Xanadu is a fun tune.
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