Old Computer Appreciation Thread

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly Any cool games you can recommend for the MSX1/2/Turbo R?

Here are just a few:

MSX1 :
Oils-well : super addictive

Blagger
pinguin adventure: was always fun

Turbo-R:
Undead Line

MSX2:
Salamander : The super nemesis
Konami Game Collection Special (1989)(Konami)[SCC+]:simple but addictive
(2 times, the second choice)
(I have an individual rom, but can't find it now)

Zering

@Folly Salamander is awesome, hard as hell though.
Speaking of Salamander did you happen to take a look at the X68000 version?
It's crazy how much Konami supported those computers. It seems to me that along with Compile they completely dominated the MSX.

I'll try some of those games tonight!

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly Salamander is awesome, hard as hell though.
Speaking of Salamander did you happen to take a look at the X68000 version?
It's crazy how much Konami supported those computers. It seems to me that along with Compile they completely dominated the MSX.

I'll try some of those games tonight!

What I have seen, it's realy amazing.

Zering

@Folly Salamander on MSX is very interesting. I expected a straight port but really it's Gradius in Salamander's clothing, with the traditional power up bar and everything. Great fun.
I can see myself spending way more time than I should on Oil's Well ^^

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly Salamander on MSX is very interesting. I expected a straight port but really it's Gradius in Salamander's clothing, with the traditional power up bar and everything. Great fun.
I can see myself spending way more time than I should on Oil's Well ^^

Suggestion: Collect the "E"'s in Salamander :)

Zering

@Folly What do they do?

Folly

@Zering

Got Wibarm running !

Seems that info of adding disks is also missing in the retropie docs.
Perhaps we can add this.

Summarized a bit :
Press "F1" -> Press "z" (back) -> Goto "Subsystems" -> Goto "2 disks" -> Add the first disk, again add the second disk (in same options)( it will say something like, 2 disks added) -> Same option, "2 disks", turns into "start ......" - Execute with "x".

Will try later if we can make .m3u files.

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly What do they do?

As far as I remember. You get special weapons.

Zering

@Folly That's what I meant with subsystems. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
I wonder if there's a way down the line to update the documrntation with all this information?

AdamBeGood

@Zering I got Neural Gear working! It's mouse control. Change the setting in Options from Joystick to Mouse and then click on the Menu and you're away!

Edit: the question of whether it was worth the struggle is still to be answered.

@Folly I got the games you mentioned, I was catching some rice balls in Konami Collection this morning!

Zering

@AdamBeGood Oh well done! Did you try After Burner II to see if the issue was the same?

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood Oh well done! Did you try After Burner II to see if the issue was the same?

I didn't, I haven't got that one yet. Let me know!

Zering

@AdamBeGood No luck with either.

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood No luck with either.

Weird, I just tried AfterBurner II and it worked for me. You've changed the setting in Options?

Zering

@AdamBeGood ...I forgot to turn my mouse on.

Retrying now. ^^

Edit : Yup, Neural Gear works now. Is it not very good or is it just Me?

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood ...I forgot to turn my mouse on.

Retrying now. ^^

Edit : Yup, Neural Gear works now. Is it not very good or is it just Me?

I am not sure, it didn't seem amazing but maybe it was a matter of getting used to the controls. I'll give it more time!

Also, when @Folly said -

MSX2:
Salamander : The super nemesis

Is that an official release or a patched version of MSX Salamander... I have only found the latter so far.

Zering

@AdamBeGood There is an official MSX1 release of Salamander, I think Folly called it super Nemesis because it borrows a lot of gameplay elements from that series.

The Gradius wiki article on MSX Salamander

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood There is an official MSX1 release of Salamander, I think Folly called it super Nemesis because it borrows a lot of gameplay elements from that series.

The Gradius wiki article on MSX Salamander

I thought he might have put it under MSX2 because of this: https://www.msx.org/news/software/en/konamis-salamander-pimped-up

I've downloaded the patch now and it works fine. I haven't played the original enough to tell too much difference though.

Folly

Well, I'm mobile. Cannot react as i would like.

Always tought that Salamander was an MSX2 game. Indeed that "super nemesis" was just an expression of mine. Nice to know there is a patch. Will try that when I can.

I will edit the "summarized disk add for the pc-88" when I am behind my pi4.
Was doing this out of my head.

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly The PC88 has this really strange game called Wibarm that is worth a look. Otherwise, Dragon Slayer 1 and 2 are fun!
On the PC98 I can't recommend Rude Breaker enough. Flame Zapper Kotsujin and Rusty are also very good.

I'm going to sort out PC98 tomorrow. You've convinced me.