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    Zering @Folly
    last edited by Zering 11 Apr 2020, 20:30 4 Nov 2020, 20:29

    @Folly Brilliant! Does it correct the invisible bullets on Final Crisis?

    Edit : Those screenshots make me jealous. I love the look of PC88 games!

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      Folly @Zering
      last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:32

      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @Folly Brilliant! Does it correct the invisible bullets on Final Crisis?

      Edit : Those screenshots make me jealous. I love the look of PC88 games!

      Do you meen the RED >>>> ? Then it does.haha
      Final Crisis (Techno Grard)-201104-213135.png

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        Zering @Folly
        last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:33

        @Folly Sweet! How long did it take you to install from source? I'll have to do it tonight.

        I'm trying to get M88 started and it's a pain.

        Speaking of, both M88 and Neko Project II come packaged with the appropriate BIOS. I'm wondering if that means we're all right to share them? @mitu

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          Folly @Zering
          last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 20:41 4 Nov 2020, 20:36

          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @Folly Sweet! How long did it take you to install from source? I'll have to do it tonight.

          Just about five minutes.

          I'm trying to get M88 started and it's a pain.

          Speaking of, both M88 and Neko Project II come packaged with the appropriate BIOS. I'm wondering if that means we're all right to share them? @mitu

          Ok, don't know that M88, I think. Will see later on.
          Do you have a link of that thread.

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            Zering @Folly
            last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:39

            @Folly Which thread?

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              Folly @Zering
              last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 20:43 4 Nov 2020, 20:42

              @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

              @Folly Which thread?

              I was thinking there was a thread about M88.
              Then I misunderstood.

              I reread it, I get it !

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                Zering @Folly
                last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:43

                @Folly Haha okay well I've installed lr-quasi88 from source and I'm giving it a spin now. I'm really hoping Final Crisis run right, that game looks totally awesome.

                I just love the graphical style of those old 8-bit PC games, they've got something a little special.

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                  Folly @Zering
                  last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:44

                  @Zering
                  I don't think you need that old pc of yours. :)

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                    Zering @Folly
                    last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:45

                    @Folly I hope not. That thing is a fossil. I tried running SD Snatcher on it the other day when we couldn't get it working and the whole thing crashed.
                    My Pi 3B was a better computer ^^

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                      AdamBeGood @Zering
                      last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:46

                      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @Folly Haha okay well I've installed lr-quasi88 from source and I'm giving it a spin now. I'm really hoping Final Crisis run right, that game looks totally awesome.

                      I just love the graphical style of those old 8-bit PC games, they've got something a little special.

                      I love the way the border and screen is so packed with detail on some of them, it makes me want to get on with PC88 as well.

                      But first things first. How do you guys do checksums? I am using sha1sum on RetroPie. Is that the right thing to do. I've just downloaded ten different sets of BIOS and none of them match you guys.

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                        Zering @AdamBeGood
                        last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:47

                        @AdamBeGood Don't worry about it matching. Get the BIOS straight from Project Neko. If it still doesn't work with those, we know the problem is coming from something else.

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                          mitu Global Moderator @Zering
                          last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:47

                          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          Speaking of, both M88 and Neko Project II come packaged with the appropriate BIOS. I'm wondering if that means we're all right to share them? @mitu

                          Do they have a proper license attached ?

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                            Zering @mitu
                            last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:47

                            @mitu How would I go about establishing that?

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                              Folly @Zering
                              last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 20:53 4 Nov 2020, 20:49

                              @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @Folly I hope not. That thing is a fossil. I tried running SD Snatcher on it the other day when we couldn't get it working and the whole thing crashed.
                              My Pi 3B was a better computer ^^

                              On old computers you can use my RetropieXstation script :
                              https://github.com/FollyMaddy/retropieXstation
                              or the RetroRun script :
                              https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroRun
                              ( added possible resolutions changes in both scripts)

                              (perhaps it does not work for openMSX though, never tried)

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                                Zering @Folly
                                last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:54

                                @Folly Interesting! I might try that. Not sure my computer will be thanking you for the extra work though ^^

                                I'm still getting sloppy results in lr-quasi88, even after installing from source. I see the extra CPU option in the RetroArch menu but it doesn't seem to do anything.
                                Could you point me to the directory where you found the file that you edited to set the value for that option to 2?

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                                  mitu Global Moderator @Zering
                                  last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:54

                                  @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @mitu How would I go about establishing that?

                                  Do they have a license file accompanying them, or the emulator includes a Readme/License file that explains the licencing (re-distribution/modification/etc.) ?

                                  For instance, the source release of M88 that I found specifically says that ROMs are not included and user must get the ROMs from the machine (https://github.com/rururutan/m88/blob/master/README.md).

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                                    Zering @mitu
                                    last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 20:56

                                    @mitu Ah, that's my bad. I didn't pick them up from the emulator's websites, so my guess is the .zips I found were edited.

                                    Thanks for clarifying that.

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                                      Folly @Zering
                                      last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 21:03 4 Nov 2020, 20:57

                                      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @Folly Interesting! I might try that. Not sure my computer will be thanking you for the extra work though ^^

                                      I'm still getting sloppy results in lr-quasi88, even after installing from source. I see the extra CPU option in the RetroArch menu but it doesn't seem to do anything.
                                      Could you point me to the directory where you found the file that you edited to set the value for that option to 2?

                                      Press F1 -> option -> sub-cpu -> alway ........ -> F1
                                      (restart)
                                      or
                                      q88_sub_cpu_mode = "2"
                                      in
                                      /opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch-core-options.cfg

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                                        AdamBeGood @Zering
                                        last edited by AdamBeGood 11 Apr 2020, 21:08 4 Nov 2020, 21:02

                                        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @AdamBeGood Don't worry about it matching. Get the BIOS straight from Project Neko. If it still doesn't work with those, we know the problem is coming from something else.

                                        I've installed Project Neko on my PC (well, downloaded that is, installing is a stretch), and there don't seem to be BIOS with that, or on the site. I'll try googling around.

                                        Edit: I feel like I am jinxed, or like I'm being a real idiot today. There is some kind of BIOS included as games are getting further than on my Pi (while still not loading).

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                                          Zering @AdamBeGood
                                          last edited by Zering 11 Apr 2020, 21:09 4 Nov 2020, 21:03

                                          @AdamBeGood You're jinxed ^^

                                          I think I'm having some bad luck myself, with PC88.

                                          @Folly Still no luck with PC88. I've reinstalled from source twice. The sub CPU setting is set to the right value.

                                          But, testing with Final Crisis, my video output looks nothing like yours. There are basically no colours besides white and purple, yours has a bunch of red and other colours.

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