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      AdamBeGood @Zering
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      @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @adambegood Haha told you! ^^
      I'll look into the C thing in a short bit.

      I wouldn't mind if it worked on my keyboard, I would just press it there. Not ideal but I don't really mind.

      On Rusty, jump and attack use special. Maybe worth checking that doesn't work for Night Slave. Long shot though.

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        Zering @AdamBeGood
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        @adambegood I don't understand what you mean about Rusty?

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          AdamBeGood @Zering
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          @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @adambegood I don't understand what you mean about Rusty?

          Jump and Attack pressed together use the special items.

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            Zering @AdamBeGood
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            @adambegood Figured out the C Issue. For this game, set your Joypad D-Pad to Mouse/Keyboard/Joypad Mapping to Arrow 3Button. Edit : Or is it Keypad 3-button? One of those two work.

            Can I just say how much I adore the graphics on this system? That extra resolution is just gorgeous (same for the PC88 to a lesser extent).

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              Folly
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              Hi,

              Was a bit curious if I was able to translate japanese text from a screenshot of a game.
              ( how are you translating @AdamBeGood ? )

              Isolated the text > online OCR > online translator :
              2020-11-07-191940_1024x768_scrot_crop.png

              Isolated the text > tesseract OCR (open source) > online translator :
              2020-11-07-192615_1024x768_scrot_crop.png

              I was thinking, should it be possible to "under title" a game with translations this way.

              I read about patches, but these are not made for all games.

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                Zering @Folly
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                @folly There are quite a few games on the PC98 that have been translated thankfully, but if your idea worked that'd be pretty amazing.

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                  Folly @Zering
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                  @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  @folly There are quite a few games on the PC98 that have been translated thankfully, but if your idea worked that'd be pretty amazing.

                  Yes, I saw many for the PC98 (also the patches).
                  Well perhaps I will do some more tests. Would be an extremely nice feature in Retropie if this could be done. :)

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                    Zering @Folly
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                    @folly Indeed! So many of those games would deserve a translation but aren't.
                    Do you think this sort of thing would be within the realm of possibility? I imagine it would take a pretty big toll on the Pi's CPU no?

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                      Folly @Zering
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                      @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly Indeed! So many of those games would deserve a translation but aren't.
                      Do you think this sort of thing would be within the realm of possibility? I imagine it would take a pretty big toll on the Pi's CPU no?

                      Indeed, a big toll if all frames would have to be processed. Perhaps it's better to let the user decide when a translation has to be made. (by pressing or every 30 seconds or so)

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                        Zering @Folly
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                        @folly What about a situation in which the 'translations would be streamed from another device, ie. a PC or a phone?

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                          Folly @Zering
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                          @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @folly What about a situation in which the 'translations would be streamed from another device, ie. a PC or a phone?

                          Good idea, then the load is more on that device.

                          I have used a VNC connection with my PI to a tablet. Using the tabled as a display. I was able to play games. So this would be possible.

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                            Zering @Folly
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                            @folly What would it take to make something like this happen then?

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                              Folly @Zering
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                              @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @folly What would it take to make something like this happen then?

                              Well, if it could be done directly on the pi, then screenshots have to be pushed to tesseract-ocr, the created text then have to be shifted to a translator (online or offline (open source)), then put back to Retroarch as an overlay.

                              Ofcourse, that's a lot of work. Pfff....

                              Will try some. (but indeed, perhaps it's not feasible)

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                                Zering @Folly
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                                @folly I literally did not understand a word ^^
                                Is there anything you can work from? Surely somebody somewhere must have had a similar idea.

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @zering

                                  I will explain a bit better.

                                  I didn't expect, but it could be quite easy when using just a screenshot made in the normal way.

                                  manually did this test :

                                  • made a screenshot of "oilswell" with the screen "select game with joystick"
                                  • used tesseract to recognise and save the text from the picture
                                  • used "trans"(commandline google translate shell) to read the text file (it recognises my language and translates to that)
                                  • then I can use "xosd-bin" to overlay the text in the game. (tested this program and it works)

                                  Will see if i can automate that. Curious what the result will be.
                                  My script has to look , on the fly, for pictures, delete them, translate and show them. Seems possible !!!

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @folly You're a true computer whiz! I've learnt more about this stuff just chatting with you than I have most of the time I've had the Pi.
                                    I'm very excited to hear the results.

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                                      Folly @Zering
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                                      @zering

                                      here is a picure from the test :

                                      text size and color can be change, I think. (did not test yet)

                                      2020-11-07-214639_800x600_scrot.png

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                                        AdamBeGood @Zering
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                                        @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @adambegood Figured out the C Issue. For this game, set your Joypad D-Pad to Mouse/Keyboard/Joypad Mapping to Arrow 3Button. Edit : Or is it Keypad 3-button? One of those two work.

                                        Can I just say how much I adore the graphics on this system? That extra resolution is just gorgeous (same for the PC88 to a lesser extent).

                                        Keypad 3-button! Perfect. Really gutted I didn't get there myself though. Great work.

                                        I think it is a good looking machine, hopefully I can make some progress in Night Slave and Rusty now. :)

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                                          Folly @AdamBeGood
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                                          @adambegood

                                          Nice to hear it works. Happy playing !

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                                            AdamBeGood @Folly
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                                            @folly I've just caught up on all this translation stuff! Would be amazing if it could be done.

                                            I use patches or if it is a one-off like an instruction to change disks that I don't understand, I point a Google Translate camera at the screen. Very unsophisticated system over here!

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