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      Chris3535
      last edited by Chris3535

      Hi all

      I am new to this and i will read all the sticky threads so i am not a nuisance,. However before I do i just want to make sure that this will do what i am looking for.

      Basically i want to set this up for my dad as a present and would like it to do the following. He loves old games but he is not really tech minded. So i am looking for something that when it boots up it goes to a menu system and list a bunch of systems (mainly atari 2600, spectrum and C64) then he can click on the system of choice and a list of games appear. He then clicks the game and away he goes.

      Is this how this works in a nutshell?

      If it is just 2 more things, firstly can this work with a joystick? he is old fashioned and wont get away with joypad etc and finally will this work on the new Pi 400? as i like the idea of a keyboard attached, again making it easy for him

      I know i need to source the ROMS etc and i know how to do all that.

      Many thanks for any help

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        ExarKunIv @Chris3535
        last edited by ExarKunIv

        @chris3535

        yes him seeing the system he wants and then going in to see a list of games is what RetroPie does

        and for it working on the Pi400 i believe it would. i dont know how the keyboard connects to the pi but it should

        as for the controller. if you can find a usb joystick. i think again it should work.

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          Chris3535 @ExarKunIv
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          @exarkuniv Thanks, i also forgot to ask on other question, i only have a chromebook will this affect me downloading retropie and getting it on SD card etc?

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            ExarKunIv @Chris3535
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            @chris3535 as long as there is a program that will flash the image you download from the site to the card. then no.

            try looking for etcher that's a known one that people use.

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              Chris3535 @ExarKunIv
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              @exarkuniv would this not work?

              https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/chromeos.md

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                ExarKunIv @Chris3535
                last edited by

                @chris3535 from what it says i do think that will work

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                  Chris3535 @ExarKunIv
                  last edited by

                  @exarkuniv Thanks for your help i appreciate it :-)

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                    ExarKunIv @Chris3535
                    last edited by

                    @chris3535 thats what we are here for. just ask and most of the time someone will help you if they know.

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                      muldjord @Chris3535
                      last edited by

                      @chris3535 And I can confirm that USB C64 style joysticks work very well with RetroPie. Do keep in mind though that, when running C64 and similar systems, you sometimes need a keyboard to progress through the loading screens. The emulators do have on-screen keyboards though, but they do require a tiny bit of technical skill to understand how to use (how to bring up the keyboard and know what buttons to select).

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                        Clyde
                        last edited by Clyde

                        Two more cents:

                        • Also keep in mind that many arcade and console games require multiple buttons, whereas many home computer joysticks only had one.
                        • A keyboard is used in RetroPie like any other controller, so you configure some of its keys as controller "buttons" (see Controller Configuration and The Retropad Concept). To make it easy for your dad to remember those key-buttons, you could label them accordingly with stickers (A, B, X, Y, or 1, 2, 3 …)
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                          Chris3535 @muldjord
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                          @muldjord @Clyde thanks this leads me to another question and you both hit on it.

                          In the majority of cases he will be using a 1 button joystick for games but I could get him a 2 button one and the reason for this is can the second button be used to exit games and take him back to the menu?

                          Also as pointed out some of the newer games require multiple buttons so I was also thinking of getting him a wireless controller for these

                          Can both of them be set up in advance and can both be left plugged in? So for example when he wants to play a atari 2600 game he reaches for the joystick and when he tries a later game he reaches for the game pad?

                          It's not an issue if he has to unplug one and put the other in that's fine but if he did this would they need to be configured each time?

                          Thanks again

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                            muldjord @Chris3535
                            last edited by muldjord

                            @chris3535 I would consider something like this to be able to do everything he needs to do: https://www.amazon.com/Retro-Games-Joystick-not-machine-specific/dp/B07H25X279

                            You pretty much need 4 buttons or more to be able to navigate the menus, exit emulators, bring up on-screen keyboard and such. Full disclaimer though: i have not tried the specific product I linked, but I assume it will work.

                            It's not an issue if he has to unplug one and put the other in that's fine but if he did this would they need to be configured each time?

                            No, it only needs to be configured one time. Then it will recognize it when it's plugged in again later.

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                              Chris3535 @muldjord
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                              @muldjord i was originally looking at this one

                              https://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-Anniversary-Competition-Extra-Joystick/dp/B07K9N36GG/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Retro+Games+The+C64+Joystick&qid=1605263473&sr=8-4

                              That has 4 buttons so im guessing would be fine, plenty of people say it works with the Pi

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                                muldjord @Chris3535
                                last edited by muldjord

                                @chris3535 Those are exactly the ones I have. And I miss the extra buttons to be able to map shoulder buttons (for scrolling quickly in game menus) and the "X" button which is needed for entering the RetroArch interface while playing. Just a heads up, that more than 4 buttons is a nice thing to have, although not a requirement of course.

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                                  Chris3535 @muldjord
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                                  @muldjord Thanks....but will that joystick do for just going into the menu's ..then selecting the system, then the game and play. And can one of them buttons be mapped so when he presses it it will take him back to the menu?

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                                    dankcushions Global Moderator @Chris3535
                                    last edited by dankcushions

                                    @chris3535 yes, you could set it up like

                                         start    select
                                    A                       B
                                    

                                    with select additionally being your hotkey.
                                    start + hotkey exit back the menu

                                    it would limit you to two-button games, though.

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                                      Chris3535 @dankcushions
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                                      @dankcushions thats fine, he will only use this on the 8 and 16 bit older games
                                      Thanks for all your help

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                                        Clyde
                                        last edited by

                                        Another option would be an arcade stick aka fight stick. See 12 Best Fight Sticks for a couple of them, or search the web for "arcade sticks" or "fight sticks". From those listed in the link above, I myself have got the Mayflash F300 and a precursor of the F500, and I am very satisfied with both of them, especially at their IMHO reasonable price.

                                        On the plus side, most arcade sticks are very robust and properly sized for adult hands, with little risk of pressing the wrong button in the heat of a game. Their most obvious downside is the need of a stable flat surface to place them on.

                                        Its mostly a matter of taste if you (or your dad) prefer a handheld controller or a stationary arcade stick. I just wanted to point to one more option to consider. 😈

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                                          Chris3535 @Clyde
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                                          @clyde thanks that's giving me something else to think about now

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