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      Folly
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      @Zering

      I loaded a game in ZX81 .
      You have to look on the layout for commands.

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      • loaded a .p file.
      • press (j) for the (load) command
      • press 2x (shift+p) for (")
      • press (enter)
      • press (scoll lock)
      • press (tab)
      • goto (tape control)
      • press (play)
      • exit menu with (tab)
      • press (scroll lock)
      • press (r) for run

      Configured my joystick in the lr-mes menu too.
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        Folly @Zering
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        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @folly What do the lines stand for when they're all the same?

        first floppy
        second floppy
        etc

        It's possible to make a commandline with more floppy's added.
        But retropie and the valerino script lets you only run one floppy.

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          Folly
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          Can confim zx81 works quite good.
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            Zering @Folly
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            @folly That has to be the single most crude version of Breakout I've ever seen ^^
            I've heard good things about Mazogs, if you want to try that.

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              Folly @Zering
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              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

              @folly That has to be the single most crude version of Breakout I've ever seen ^^

              indeed, quite a simple computer. Only 1Kb standard on board.
              I tried galaxian for more ram but it did not work.

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                Zering @Folly
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                @folly Apparently the ZX80 is even simpler. Did computers lag behind consoles in terms of gaming capabilities in the early 80s? It seems like the Atari 2600 and Colecovision were leaps ahead of systems like that.

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                  Folly @Zering
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                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  @folly Apparently the ZX80 is even simpler. Did computers lag behind consoles in terms of gaming capabilities in the early 80s? It seems like the Atari 2600 and Colecovision were leaps ahead of systems like that.

                  Well, this was in the very early stages. I think it wasn't developped for gaming. More as home computer to get affiliated with the computer. Something like the bbc micro but much simpler. But with an upgrade the video and games became better though.

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                    Zering @Folly
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                    @folly I suppose it makes sense that hardware that was designed for gaming would fare better than hardware that wasn't! ^^
                    It makes you appreciate so much more how awesome the MSX and PC88 and the like were.

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                      Folly @Zering
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                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly I suppose it makes sense that hardware that was designed for gaming would fare better than hardware that wasn't! ^^
                      It makes you appreciate so much more how awesome the MSX and PC88 and the like were.

                      I think they were all jealous of us having an MSX.;-)
                      They were quite expensive too with monitor and printer included, I think the were between 1000-1400 guilders.
                      Most MSX machine were bought seperate and connected to the tv with cable signal, Not so clear as a monitor.

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                        Zering @Folly
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                        @folly I also feel like games were somewhat more complex than on 8-bit consoles, and vastly different. At least on MSX2, I can't speak for the rest.

                        I imagine Metal Gear was a pretty solid reason for owning an MSX too ^^

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                          Folly @Zering
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                          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @folly I also feel like games were somewhat more complex than on 8-bit consoles, and vastly different. At least on MSX2, I can't speak for the rest.

                          You mean on other 8 bit computers.
                          MSX was 8 bit too.

                          I imagine Metal Gear was a pretty solid reason for owning an MSX too ^^

                          indeed, But metal gear came much later, I think.

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                            Zering @Folly
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                            @folly No I mean 8-bit consoles. But I might be wrong, I'm no video game historian and the 8-bit era isn't my specialty. It just seems to me that before the Famicom and the Master System really hit their strides, you wound up with really complex games for their time on the MSX and PC88, like Wibarm, Thexder or Silpheed. Not to mention Xanadu and the other Dragon Slayer games, a couple of years before Zelda or Ys.

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                              Folly @Zering
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                              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @folly No I mean 8-bit consoles. But I might be wrong, I'm no video game historian and the 8-bit era isn't my specialty. It just seems to me that before the Famicom and the Master System really hit their strides, you wound up with really complex games for their time on the MSX and PC88, like Wibarm, Thexder or Silpheed. Not to mention Xanadu and the other Dragon Slayer games, a couple of years before Zelda or Ys.

                              Indeed I get it.

                              installed the scripts for mz700, fm7 now.
                              Is fm7 the same as fm77av ?
                              That mz2500 is that a generated script of my script you installed ?
                              Can't find the original.

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                                Zering @Folly
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                                @folly Fm77av is a better model of FM7, but there's some games that will only run on FM77AV.
                                I used one of your generated scripts for MZ2500, but I'd set it up through regular mess last month.
                                Also I suggest you use floppies for FM7, cassettes are painful.

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @folly Fm77av is a better model of FM7, but there's some games that will only run on FM77AV.
                                  I used one of your generated scripts for MZ2500.
                                  Also I suggest you use floppies for FM7, cassettes are painful.

                                  So I install the fm7 and the I can select the AV type ?

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @folly No I think you need to install both models.

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                                      Folly @Zering
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                                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @folly No I think you need to install both models.

                                      I use my fm77av.
                                      There doesn't seem to be an original valarino.

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                                        Zering @Folly
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                                        @folly There isn't. He only did fm7-flop and fm7-cass.
                                        I think your scripts are good enough to use, and if they're not, once everything is in place it's just a matter of adding lr-mess to the emulators.cfg for any given system.

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                                          Folly @Zering
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                                          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @folly There isn't. He only did fm7-flop and fm7-cass.
                                          I think your scripts are good enough to use, and if they're not, once everything is in place it's just a matter of adding lr-mess to the emulators.cfg for any given system.

                                          ok do mine

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                                            Zering @Folly
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                                            @folly I'm honestly still impressed at how quickly you pulled the whole thing together too!

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