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    Zering @Folly
    last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 21:42

    @folly I'm honestly still impressed at how quickly you pulled the whole thing together too!

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      Folly @Zering
      last edited by Folly 27 Nov 2020, 21:46

      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @folly I'm honestly still impressed at how quickly you pulled the whole thing together too!

      Did it in about 6 hours.

      I calculated the amount of time it would take if you do all this manually for each script. I think every script takes about 30 minutes.
      So thats more than 1000 hours.
      Thats about working 80 days, 12 hours a day ;-)

      Really amazing work.

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        Zering @Folly
        last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 21:47

        @folly And now you've made it so we can build the script modules in six minutes, dump a mess 0.151 bios pack in ten and build the cores in an hour. Thanks for saving me days of my life ^^

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          Folly @Zering
          last edited by Folly 27 Nov 2020, 21:48

          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @folly And now you've made it so we can build the script modules in six minutes, dump a mess 0.151 bios pack in ten and build the cores in an hour. Thanks for saving me days of my life ^^

          Your welcome.

          It also saves a lot of my time too.
          Perhaps I can make even greater stuff, who knows.

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            Zering @Folly
            last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 21:54

            @folly Do I sense that you have a new idea? ^^

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              Folly @Zering
              last edited by Folly 27 Nov 2020, 21:56

              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

              @folly Do I sense that you have a new idea? ^^

              The multi-disk problem would be nice to fix.
              Don't have a really good idea about that now.

              mz700, fm7 and fm77av boot with a dummy file.
              mz2500 doesn't boot.

              Something for tomorrow.

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                Zering @Folly
                last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 21:59

                @folly What type of files are you using? I use mess zips as much as possible.
                Mz2500 definitely booted on my end with your script, except Ys 3 (I suspect your lr-mess-mz2500 mounts the discs differently), if I can get it to work so can you! ^^

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                  Folly @Zering
                  last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 22:01

                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                  @folly What type of files are you using? I use mess zips as much as possible.
                  Mz2500 definitely booted on my end with your script, except Ys 3 (I suspect your lr-mess-mz2500 mounts the discs differently), if I can get it to work so can you! ^^

                  0.151 version with 7 files inside

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                    Zering @Folly
                    last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 22:04

                    @folly I meant for the games. 7 games for a mess mz2500 set sounds way off.

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                      Folly @Zering
                      last edited by 27 Nov 2020, 22:05

                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly I meant for the games. 7 games for a mess mz2500 set sounds way off.

                      no games yet.
                      have to search.

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                        Folly @Folly
                        last edited by Folly 28 Nov 2020, 07:47

                        @Zering @AdamBeGood

                        No games yet for mz2500. (seem very hard to find !)
                        But with the command without any media it boots.
                        So just have to find the right disk files.

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                        The others work. I found some games.
                        Seems my generated fm77av script looks for -cass, changed manually into -flop1 in emulators.cfg
                        (This issue was expected, perhaps I can pull it off in version 2 of my script using also second and third lines, so I can make one for cass and one for flop1)
                        Could play this OOB (nice one)(Fireball (1987)(Humming Bird Soft)) :
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                        FM-7 (still have to do the controlls)( 1942 (1987)(ASCII)(JP))and(Castle, The (1985)(ASCII)(JP)):
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                        MZ-700 (3D-Way Out (19xx)(BBG Software)) (looks like one of the first dooms ;-):
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                          AdamBeGood @Folly
                          last edited by 28 Nov 2020, 09:32

                          @folly Fireball is so colourful for that time! You're really exploring here.

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                            Zering @AdamBeGood
                            last edited by Zering 28 Nov 2020, 09:40

                            @adambegood Most FM7/FM77AV games I played were quite colourful. It's quite an interesting system but we have to discover pretty much everything.

                            @Folly MZ2500 is included in the MESS 0.151 Software Lists, and I think any MAME edition after that.

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                              Folly @Zering
                              last edited by Folly 28 Nov 2020, 10:41

                              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @adambegood Most FM7/FM77AV games I played were quite colourful. It's quite an interesting system but we have to discover pretty much everything.

                              @Folly MZ2500 is included in the MESS 0.151 Software Lists, and I think any MAME edition after that.

                              Found it. Will try now

                              Tried a few. laydock and tritorn didn't work.
                              sound gal booted :
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                              penguin kun wars (works quite good, indeed nice system!) :
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                                Zering @Folly
                                last edited by Zering 28 Nov 2020, 10:53

                                @folly Laydock didn't work without scripts either, I think the ROM is broken. Don't know about Tritorn.

                                Judging by the MZ2500 and the X1 it seems Sharp always put out really advanced machines for the time.

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                                  Folly @Zering
                                  last edited by Folly 28 Nov 2020, 10:56

                                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @folly Laydock didn't work without scripts either, I think the ROM is broken. Don't know about Tritorn.

                                  Read somewhere that mz80b mz2000 and mz2500 are somewhat the same computers and that they could be software compatible.
                                  What do you know about that ?

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                                    Zering @Folly
                                    last edited by 28 Nov 2020, 11:01

                                    @folly @folly I'm not sure. I know they're the same series, much like the MZ700 and MZ1500. But I don't know if they're software compatible. There's also a MZ3500, 6500, and a lot of others... I've got a bunch of those machines set up and they seem to have somewhat different libraries but with quite a bit of overlap. So I suppose it could be but I imagine that much like FM7 and FM77AV you'd still need MESS rom sets for each system.

                                    Interesting discovery. I loaded CAS files for PC6001. Lr-mess doesn't do anything with them. I get booted back to ES. The lr-mess-pc6001 I built with your script doesn't load the game, but the machine does boot. I get a 'How many pages message?'.

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                                      Zering @Folly
                                      last edited by 28 Nov 2020, 11:01

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                                        Folly @Zering
                                        last edited by Folly 28 Nov 2020, 11:09

                                        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @folly @folly I'm not sure. I know they're the same series, much like the MZ700 and MZ1500. But I don't know if they're software compatible. There's also a MZ3500, 6500, and a lot of others... I've got a bunch of those machines set up and they seem to have somewhat different libraries but with quite a bit of overlap. So I suppose it could be but I imagine that much like FM7 and FM77AV you'd still need MESS rom sets for each system.

                                        Interesting discovery. I loaded CAS files for PC6001. Lr-mess doesn't do anything with them. I get booted back to ES. The lr-mess-pc6001 I built with your script doesn't load the game, but the machine does boot. I get a 'How many pages message?'.

                                        I think a problem as expected.
                                        You have to create a second commandline in the emulators.cfg for that system and make one with -cass instead of -cart1.
                                        Select the cass version when booting should do the trick, I think !

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                                          Folly
                                          last edited by 28 Nov 2020, 11:11

                                          @Zering
                                          I will hear about it later, have to do some other stuff today.

                                          good luck!

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