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    Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003

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      mahoneyt944
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      @grand_national when you go to launch a mame rom there should be a launch box where you can press "a" to enter the setup. Here you can set the default emulator to lr-mame2003. Image example
      default

      If your roms are in the arcade folder it will say arcade instead.

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        dankcushions Global Moderator @Grand_National
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        @grand_national i think it's time to start again. you're running raspbian jessie, which is no-longer supported.

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          Grand_National @dankcushions
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          @dankcushions
          Thanks
          I downloaded a complete image from this site, so I'm now running the latest version of everything (I think).
          The good news is the trackball and the spinner actually now work in the games!!!
          Thanks for your help!
          I do have 2 nagging issues which I didn't have previously and I'm sure they are simple fixes, but I'm not sure where to find the settings.

          1. Tempest is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise. Everything I've read states MAME should auto-adjust for this, but it's not and I can't seem to find the correct setting to fix it. When I look at some Youtube videos for this they are going into Dial Settings, which I can't find.
          2. I'm looking to adjust the sensitivity of the trackback and spinner, but with everything (menus) being so new (and somewhat unfamiliar), I can't seem to find the input control settings to do this.
            Can you please point me in the right direction?
            Thanks in advance.
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          • dankcushionsD
            dankcushions Global Moderator @Grand_National
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            @grand_national said in Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003:

            I do have 2 nagging issues which I didn't have previously and I'm sure they are simple fixes, but I'm not sure where to find the settings.

            1. Tempest is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise. Everything I've read states MAME should auto-adjust for this, but it's not and I can't seem to find the correct setting to fix it. When I look at some Youtube videos for this they are going into Dial Settings, which I can't find.

            do you have TATE mode enabled by accident somehow? https://retropie.org.uk/docs/lr-mame2003/#tate-mode
            also be aware of the video_allow_rotate option - it should be set to true, as per the default.

            1. I'm looking to adjust the sensitivity of the trackback and spinner, but with everything (menus) being so new (and somewhat unfamiliar), I can't seem to find the input control settings to do this.
              Can you please point me in the right direction?

            i believe there's an analog sensitivity setting within the MAME menu, but it's not something I've personally messed with.

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              Grand_National @dankcushions
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              @dankcushions
              Thanks
              I recall seeing TATE mode on. I have since turned it off.
              Before I saw your post, I botched something. I was playing around in Retroarch and under Video, I set rotate to 270.
              That fixed Tempest (sort-of) - its on the left of the screen, not centered like before I got the new image, but this setting also rotated every other game as well and now even though its set back to normal, everything is stuck that way.
              I tried using reset to defaults, but its still stuck that way.
              EDIT: I got the screen rotated back and its in the correct orientation for both Tempest and Missle Command, but its still on the left-justified, not centered and the botton of the screen is cut off. I must have changed something by mistake. Is there a place to change this or maybe a way to set the Retroarch file back to the default and then I can just change TATE = off?

              Thanks in advance.

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                dankcushions Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                @grand_national said in Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003:

                @dankcushions
                Thanks
                I recall seeing TATE mode on. I have since turned it off.
                Before I saw your post, I botched something. I was playing around in Retroarch and under Video, I set rotate to 270.
                That fixed Tempest (sort-of) - its on the left of the screen, not centered like before I got the new image, but this setting also rotated every other game as well and now even though its set back to normal, everything is stuck that way.
                I tried using reset to defaults, but its still stuck that way.
                EDIT: I got the screen rotated back and its in the correct orientation for both Tempest and Missle Command, but its still on the left-justified, not centered and the botton of the screen is cut off. I must have changed something by mistake. Is there a place to change this or maybe a way to set the Retroarch file back to the default and then I can just change TATE = off?

                Thanks in advance.

                resetting to defaults via retroarch is not supported (retroarch defaults != retropie defaults). i fancy you have now created a Config Mess (c).

                to effectively return to defaults try updating lr-mame2003, which should create a config skeleton retroarch.cfg.rp-dist in /opt/retropie/configs/mame-libretro/ and/or /opt/retropie/configs/arcade/ - rename that to replace the retroarch.cfg in the same.

                you can do the same with the /all/retroarch.cfg by udpating retroarch.

                if that doesn't work, please supply a verbose log.

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                  Grand_National @dankcushions
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                  @dankcushions
                  Well, I got it working, but then I decided I wanted to reimage the SD card from the original image I got from this site to be 100% 'clean'.
                  When I went back on my laptop into Windows to use Disk Imager to reimage it, the SD card only shows 256MB of 128GB. After attempting to image it again, while it looks like it worked, but it actually failed and the Pi won't boot.
                  There doesn't seem to be anything I can do to get the lost space back on the sd card. I've tried disk manager, diskpart (clean, clean all, delete partition, create partition, format, etc.), and a third party partition utility. It doesn't show the extra space as unallocated, it only shows the 256MB. Is there some other trick I haven't tried?

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                    mitu Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                    @grand_national said in Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003:

                    When I went back on my laptop into Windows to use Disk Imager to reimage it, the SD card only shows 256MB of 128GB

                    That's because Windows doesn't see the Linux partition that spans the rest of the card, it only shows you the boot partition - which is indeed 256Mb.

                    Use the Raspberry Pi Imager to write the latest RetroPie release - it will download and flash the image correctly on the microSD.

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                      Grand_National @mitu
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                      @mitu
                      I understand native Windows cannot see the Linux formatted area on the card, but unfortunately, neither the (Windows version) Raspberry Pi imager nor the (Windows version) Image Writer see the SD card's full capacity either. Both see the 256MB only and provide errors stating the card is not large enough. Is there some other version?

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                        mitu Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                        @grand_national said in Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003:

                        Both see the 256MB only and provide errors stating the card is not large enough.

                        Can you show a screenshot of the error ? If you're on a Windows machine, you can check the card's capacity with the Disk Manager application ?

                        Is there some other version?

                        Other version of ... ?

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                          Grand_National @mitu
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                          @mitu
                          The card's original capacity was (is) 128GB which is what I wrote the retropie image to.

                          I simply tried to write the exact same image to it again using the same tool Win32 disk Imager 1.0 (I still had it open from the first time).

                          It warned be about space and something about unused data space containing data ("Not enough available space! - 1.0 More space required than is available: Required 6053888 sectors Available: 523937 sectors Sector Size 512 The extra space DOES appear to contain data Continue Anyway?" It wrote very quickly (too quickly)..."like 256MB quickly" .

                          I put it in the Pi. The PI started scrolling commands, but the pi errored and would not boot.

                          Diskmanager, DISKPART and every tool I've used says the capacity is 256MB.
                          I checked it on 2 PCs.

                          Raspberry Pi Imager v1.5 states "Storage capacity is not large enough. Need to be at least 4.0 GB."
                          Does the Raspberry Pi Imager only run on Pc, Mac, and Ubuntu?

                          Not sure how I can upload a photo.

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                            mitu Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                            @grand_national said in Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003:

                            Not sure how I can upload a photo.

                            You just drag and drop the file here or copy the image and paste it in the post area.

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                              Grand_National @mitu
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                              @mitu
                              I updated my post with the errors.

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                                mitu Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                                @grand_national Use the Disk Manager in Windows and delete the 2 partitions on the sdcard, then try again writing the image.

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                                  Grand_National @mitu
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                                  @mitu
                                  There is only 1 256MB partition on the card.

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                                    mitu Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                                    @grand_national It looks like Windows - indeed - sees on 256 Mb on the external disk.
                                    It should look like this (2 partitions, first one 256Mb FAT formatted).

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                                    Try using the HP SDCard formatting tool and see if Windows can see the card at full capacity afterwards.

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                                      Grand_National @mitu
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                                      @mitu
                                      I found that utility last night.
                                      It only formats it up to 256MB like every other utility I've found.
                                      There was a post that the HP utility can only recover space up to a certain capacity something like cards up to 32GB or 64GB....of course mine is 128GB.
                                      I'm looking for some other more updated utility which can get my card's space back. I was hoping something on Linux could do it, but I can't boot the Pi....well....I can using the old Retropie SD card which I started out with but I'm not sure how I could boot with that and format another card.

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                                        Grand_National @Grand_National
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                                        @grand_national
                                        I'm looking for a utility which will reclaim the 128GB. No matter what utility I've tried on Windows (so far), it only sees 256MB, hence my question about running it on another type of OS. sort of like this (see screenshot).......be running the PI and format the bad card using the PI, but I can't boot from the bad card and I don't want to format the card which I booted from. I'm assuming since the OS is running on the card, it cant be ejected and replaced with another card while the PI is booted. ...and I don't have a micro-SD to USB reader which will handle the 128GB capacity either, so I can't plug it in a USB port. I realize my other screenshots were too small, so I've posted them here below.
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                                          mitu Global Moderator @Grand_National
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                                          @grand_national said in Trackball & Spinner unresponsive in MAME2003:

                                          It only formats it up to 256MB like every other utility I've found.

                                          I don't know any other utilities that will 'recover' the space.
                                          IMHO you should return the card, if you still have the opportunity, and get a similar sized one.

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                                            Grand_National @mitu
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                                            @mitu
                                            I'd do that in a heartbeat, but its a 45 minute drive.
                                            Right now the HP formatter doesn't even see the card to format. Last night, it saw the 256MB.
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