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      barbudreadmon
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      Added support for yet another tms34010 game : Exterminator

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        barbudreadmon
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        A new batch of tms34010 games, this time it was the turn of midway Y-Unit board :

        • High Impact Football
        • Super High Impact
        • Mortal Kombat (older versions of the game)
        • Narc (the constant digital noise, present on original game, was removed from that one : while accuracy is generally good, too much accuracy will just give you a headache in that case...)
        • Smash TV
        • Strike Force
        • Terminator 2 - Judgment Day
        • Total Carnage
        • Trog
        • Trog prototype (this one is basically a different game from final version)

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          roslof @barbudreadmon
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          @barbudreadmon looking good.
          Only issue is with Smash TV, which requires dual-analog controls. Left moves. Right fires (same controls as Robotron). FWIW Total Carnage is fine.

          Cheers!

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            barbudreadmon @roslof
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            @roslof said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

            Only issue is with Smash TV

            Oops, i overlooked this one, thanks for the report, fixed !

            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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              WeirdH @barbudreadmon
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              @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

              Added support for :

              • 2 on 2 Open Ice Challenge
              • Judge Dredd proto
              • NBA Hangtime
              • NBA Jam
              • NBA Jam TE
              • NBA Maximum HT
              • WWF: Wrestlemania

              Are these expected to run choppily on a Pi 3B+? I tested Open Ice 2on2, NBAJam TE and WWF Mania, but only NBA Jam TE ran without stuttering sound or much slowdown.

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                barbudreadmon @WeirdH
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                @weirdh said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                Are these expected to run choppily on a Pi 3B+?

                Probably, midway W-Unit is about twice the specs of CPS3, which is the upper limit on pi3 afaik (beyond the limit if you use widescreen mode in sfiii/sfiii2)

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                  roslof @barbudreadmon
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                  @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                  @roslof said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                  Only issue is with Smash TV

                  Oops, i overlooked this one, thanks for the report, fixed !

                  Got your back.
                  Verified fixed. Love the update.

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                    barbudreadmon @roslof
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                    @roslof Btw, you might consider adding trogp to your compatibility list as a different game since that prototype had significantly different gameplay from the final version.

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                      roslof @barbudreadmon
                      last edited by roslof

                      @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                      @roslof Btw, you might consider adding trogp to your compatibility list as a different game since that prototype had significantly different gameplay from the final version.

                      Can't find a "trogp" ROM, but I've been using trogpa4 from the MAME ROMset. It's listed as [Proto] Trog

                      Is your trogp the same as MAME's trogpa4?

                      Funny that I actually work with one of the Trog developers and he clued me in about the gameplay differences 4 years ago, so I made sure it was on my list. As I remember him telling the story, they tested the prototype and it was too confusing for players. They opted for the new design, which internally they called "Pac-Man Trog" because of its simple collect all the things nature. I think the developers preferred the prototype, but the public had spoken. :)

                      After your initial post about the update, I mapped trogpa4 to fbneo, and it runs very well, as expected.

                      Cheers!

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                        barbudreadmon @roslof
                        last edited by barbudreadmon

                        @roslof said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                        Can't find a "trogp" ROM, but I've been using trogpa4 from the MAME ROMset. It's listed as [Proto] Trog
                        Is your trogp the same as MAME's trogpa4?

                        Oops, yeah, i forgot this romset was renamed to trogpa4, trogp is the old name (from older mame). This game is a hidden gem imho, probably better than the final game.
                        I didn't notice it was at the beginning of your list.

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                          barbudreadmon
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                          The last midway tms34010 game, Revolution X, was added to FBNeo.

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                            barbudreadmon
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                            "Power-up baseball", a prototype that disappeared from the radars for several decades, was dumped just a few days ago and added to FBNeo. It's basically Midway's unreleased "Baseball Jam". Some background story if you are interested : https://gamehistory.org/powerupbaseball/
                            The game might have awkward mapping (i never know how to map those games with tons of controls...), so i'm open to any suggestion about that.

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                              barbudreadmon
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                              Thanks to an external contributor (eziochiu), the last 2 unplayable pgm games (and their clones) finally became playable :

                              • Dragon World 3
                              • Photo Y2K 2 (3-in-1)

                              Don't expect fancy shmup/beat'em'up/vsfighting games though ;)

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                                barbudreadmon
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                                Sega system32 support was added to FBNeo, including :

                                • Air Rescue
                                • Arabian Fight
                                • Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder
                                • Dark Edge
                                • Spider-Man: The Videogame
                                • Dragon Ball Z V.R.V.S.
                                • Holosseum
                                • SegaSonic The Hedgehog
                                • Alien3: The Gun
                                • Burning Rival
                                • F1 Super Lap
                                • F1 Exhaust Note
                                • Jurassic Park
                                • Rad Mobile
                                • Rad Rally
                                • Slip Stream
                                • Super Visual Football: European Sega Cup
                                • Soreike Kokology
                                • Soreike Kokology Vol. 2 - Kokoro no Tanteikyoku
                                • Hard Dunk
                                • OutRunners
                                • Stadium Cross
                                • Title Fight

                                Tip: the multi-screen games can be ran in a single-screen, check the DIPs.
                                Tip2: Driving games have a dip option for steering: "Logarithmic" and "Linear" - give them a try - see what you like better.
                                Warning: i believe our driver is a tad slower than lr-mame2016's, so it might not be a good fit even on pi4

                                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                  dodonpachi @barbudreadmon
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                                  @barbudreadmon I just compiled lr-fbneo from source and tested some games. Sega Sonic runs great in the first level; after that, the music cuts out so often that it's almost muted. Arabian Fight likewise has almost no music playing.

                                  EDIT: For what its worth, I'm on a Pi 4 2GB overclocked to 2100 CPU and 750 GPU.

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                                    barbudreadmon @dodonpachi
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                                    @dodonpachi Thanks for the feedback, i think i know where the issue might be coming from (there is a bunch of code in soundboard emulation that doesn't seem arm-friendly), i'll try to fix this tomorrow.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      barbudreadmon @dodonpachi
                                      last edited by barbudreadmon

                                      @dodonpachi said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                      Arabian Fight likewise has almost no music playing.

                                      Hmmm, it seems music is playing on my pi3 but maybe i'm missing something because it's so slow ? Could you please check if the following fbneo_libretro.so solve the issue you are reporting ? https://www.sendspace.com/file/him49i

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                                        Darksavior @barbudreadmon
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                                        @barbudreadmon I tried your build and I get music in Arabian Fight. I tested up to the 2nd level. The music does skip and that's because it's running at around 48-50fps on my pi4 at 2Ghz.

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                                          roslof @barbudreadmon
                                          last edited by roslof

                                          @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                          Thanks to an external contributor (eziochiu), the last 2 unplayable pgm games (and their clones) finally became playable :

                                          • Dragon World 3
                                          • Photo Y2K 2 (3-in-1)

                                          This is great! Didn't have these on my original list, but added both.
                                          There is an issue with Dragon World 3. After completing the first set of tiles, the bonus counts down to 0, fades to black, then immediately informs "OPCODE 1111". After a few moments, presents an "Illegal Instruction" screen with a stack trace.

                                          drgw3-stack.png

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                                            barbudreadmon @Darksavior
                                            last edited by barbudreadmon

                                            @darksavior said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                            I tried your build and I get music in Arabian Fight

                                            but not with the standard build from the repo ?

                                            @roslof thanks for the report, i'll let eziochiu know

                                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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