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Amiberry 3.3 / RPi 4 slow

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    mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
    last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 03:50

    @gordonfreemanjr You can comment out the custom video mode and try with just hdmi_safe.

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      gordonfreemanjr @mitu
      last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 07:59

      @mitu Um, no. With this setting on and the custom modes commented out, the ES won’t boot.

      Also, the terminal window looks like this:
      https://ibb.co/t2ztQTX

      RPi 4 4GB
      Retropie v 4.7.1

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        mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
        last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 08:56

        Ok, so the hdmi_safe works, but for some reason ES doesn't start.
        Can you run emulationstation --debug and post the \\retropie\configs\all\emulationstation\es_log.txt to pastebin.com ?

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          gordonfreemanjr @mitu
          last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 09:13

          @mitu Sure. Here:

          https://pastebin.com/Pu26SKm9

          RPi 4 4GB
          Retropie v 4.7.1

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            mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
            last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 10:24

            @gordonfreemanjr The log shows no error related to the video and a proper showdown.
            I just tried the same thing on a Pi4 and EmulationStation starts ok - albeit in 640x480 @ 60hz, forced by hdmi_safe. Does your TV shows the change of resolution when starting ?

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              gordonfreemanjr @mitu
              last edited by gordonfreemanjr 2 Mar 2021, 11:48 3 Feb 2021, 11:47

              @mitu I’m not sure about showing the change of resolution, but when I power the Pi up with the new settings, apart from the black screen and the ES not booting, when I press the HOME button on the Smart TV’s remote, the following info is displayed:

              HDMI 1
              Game Mode
              640x480 / 60p
              SD
              the date and the time

              RPi 4 4GB
              Retropie v 4.7.1

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                mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
                last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 15:42

                @gordonfreemanjr said in Amiberry 3.3 / RPi 4 slow:

                Game Mode
                640x480 / 60p

                This seems right, similar to your screenshot. Why ES doesn't show up, that I cannot explain - didn't found this situation before.

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                  gordonfreemanjr @mitu
                  last edited by gordonfreemanjr 2 Mar 2021, 16:45 3 Feb 2021, 16:37

                  @mitu Still, when the Pi is blackscreened at the start up, that is when the ES doesn’t show up, the F4 key works and brings the terminal up. As far as I’m concerned, this the expected behaviour when quitting the ES.

                  It’s almost like the ES was booting after all, just hiding behind the black screen for some reason.

                  RPi 4 4GB
                  Retropie v 4.7.1

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                    dankcushions Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
                    last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 16:48

                    @gordonfreemanjr i don't know why it would make a difference, but could you try with the default theme? and/or updating emulationstation to latest master (update from source)?

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                      gordonfreemanjr @dankcushions
                      last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 18:27

                      @dankcushions I like this suggestion. I’ll try that later today and get back to you. Thanks!

                      RPi 4 4GB
                      Retropie v 4.7.1

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                        gordonfreemanjr @dankcushions
                        last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 09:24

                        @dankcushions Both methods have failed. Same situation: black screen on startup, even with the preset theme and the ES script updated from source.

                        RPi 4 4GB
                        Retropie v 4.7.1

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                          mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
                          last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 09:49

                          @gordonfreemanjr One last idea (filtering out 4k modes at the source) - add to config.txt:

                          [hdmi:0]
                          hdmi_max_pixel_freq=200000000
                          [hdmi:1]
                          hdmi_max_pixel_freq=200000000
                          

                          Remove the hdmi_safe option and comment out the hdmi_group/hdmi_mode options (if still enabled).

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                            gordonfreemanjr @mitu
                            last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 10:32

                            @mitu Ok, so the „safe”, „mode” and „group” options are now commented out, and the „pixel freq” options are on.

                            The ES boots fine. The HOME button on my Smart TV remote displays the following info:

                            3840x2160 / 30p
                            UHD

                            RPi 4 4GB
                            Retropie v 4.7.1

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                              mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
                              last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 15:19

                              @gordonfreemanjr said in Amiberry 3.3 / RPi 4 slow:

                              3840x2160 / 30p
                              UHD

                              Based on the information above, I guess the 4k video modes aren't filtered. Can you post the config.txt with the latest modifications ?

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                                gordonfreemanjr @mitu
                                last edited by gordonfreemanjr 2 Apr 2021, 16:15 4 Feb 2021, 16:13

                                @mitu Sure. Here:
                                https://pastebin.com/t9RYrdNn

                                Also, some screenshots:
                                https://ibb.co/rFKRj99
                                https://ibb.co/SPjw72F

                                RPi 4 4GB
                                Retropie v 4.7.1

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                                  mitu Global Moderator @gordonfreemanjr
                                  last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 16:32

                                  @gordonfreemanjr The config looks ok. The only think that's a bit different than the stock config is enable_uart(added by a shutdown script maybe ?), but that shouldn't affect the video resolution stuff.

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                                    gordonfreemanjr @mitu
                                    last edited by gordonfreemanjr 2 Apr 2021, 17:48 4 Feb 2021, 17:15

                                    @mitu I just called Samsung and they confirmed that upscaling the resolution is what a Smart TV does and there’s no internal setting to change it.

                                    ...

                                    Still, when I connect the Pi via HDMI, the TV asks me what kind of equipment it is. I usually pick Game Console. Maybe I should ID the Pi as something else to avoid the upscaling? A decoder? A toaster?

                                    At the same time I find it weird that I’m the first RPi4/Smart TV user to encounter an error like this one.

                                    RPi 4 4GB
                                    Retropie v 4.7.1

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                                      Cna @mitu
                                      last edited by Cna 2 Apr 2021, 17:57 4 Feb 2021, 17:52

                                      @mitu I know nothing about Rpi4 but i encoutered real slowdowns on Rpi3 with enable_uart=1 which set core_freq to 250Mhz instead of 400Mhz on Pi3.
                                      You may give a try on removing this.

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                                        quicksilver @Cna
                                        last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 18:08

                                        @cna that setting doesn't seem to affect the gpu core frequency on the pi 4 the way it does on previous pi models. With it on I still get 500mhz frequency for the core clock.

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                                          mitu Global Moderator
                                          last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 18:09

                                          @gordonfreemanjr said in Amiberry 3.3 / RPi 4 slow:

                                          I just called Samsung and they confirmed that upscaling the resolution is what a Smart TV does and there’s no internal setting to change it.

                                          That's not exactly true. When using hdmi_safe, it reported the resolution correctly (640x480).

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