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    Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.

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      barbudreadmon @Folly
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      @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

      kung-fu-master-2016 - a078f273

      I won't add this one, it's actually from 2015 (see title screen), probably a prototype, and apart from the game having a major bug (the character is invincible ?), i can't notice anything different about it. It doesn't seem worth keeping.

      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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        barbudreadmon @Folly
        last edited by barbudreadmon

        @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

        the-stone-of-wisdom-2015 - 342c73ca

        I won't add that one either, the only difference between the 2 roms is on the last few bytes (from $0001FF81 to $0001FFA0), i suspect it is only a story of digital signature and retail/free version. It doesn't seem worth having both, nor replacing the one we currently support, except if someone proves me wrong.

        Support for the older 128k zombie near version was added (zombnearb, clone of zombnear). I believe that closes the case of missing FBNeo coleco romsets that seem worth keeping.

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          Folly
          last edited by Folly

          I did an update on my generator script, used in post_39 for "lr-mess (adam)"/"mame (adam)".
          Now the roms can be started from the normal coleco rom directory.
          BTW : You have to do a new adam install.

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            Folly
            last edited by Folly

            I updated the last part in the list.

            Not expected, but really, we did a ton of work here ;-)

            Now we can run quite some titles on the PI4.

            I am quite satisfied now.
            But If we want to, there are a few things that still can be done :

            • We can try to improve game specific controller setting for the problematic "coleco keypad" games (FBNeo)
            • add openMSX in RetroPie as an emulator for ColecoVision and ColecoVision_SGM
            • improve game compatibility for openMSX
            • improve the game compatibility for lr-mess/MAME

            Nice, together we have done a really good job here !

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              Folly @barbudreadmon
              last edited by Folly

              @barbudreadmon

              In the first post @AdamBeGood talked about Flappy.
              It's a 32kb rom, but it seems it's not in the dat list.

              5ac80811 flapee-byrd-2014.rom

              Not sure, but I think there are much more missing.

              Do I have to do some more checking for you ?

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                barbudreadmon @Folly
                last edited by

                @folly "Flapee Byrd" added, feel free to suggest any other coleco game we are missing.

                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                  DTEAM @Folly
                  last edited by DTEAM

                  @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                  Not sure, but I think there are much more missing.

                  Flappe Byrd is in the Homebrew list
                  https://cvaddict.com/list.php?filter=3

                  but not in the filtred list for Super Game Module see:
                  https://cvaddict.com/list.php?filter=8

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                    Folly @DTEAM
                    last edited by Folly

                    @dteam

                    We have done all SGM games already, I think.
                    So I was aware of fact that Flappy isn't an SGM one, because it's a 32kb rom.
                    I should have mentioned it before.

                    I added this because we want good support for all the games out there, not only sgm's
                    @barbudreadmon also added it like a homebrew only, so I think we are good, don't you think too ?

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                      Folly @barbudreadmon
                      last edited by Folly

                      @barbudreadmon

                      I made some quick bash lines to check crc32 and the first word of a all games against the dat list.

                      I used these lines to check the roms against the online dat :
                      (cd to your rom directory first !)

                      online_dat=$(curl 'https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libretro/FBNeo/master/dats/FinalBurn%20Neo%20(ClrMame%20Pro%20XML%2C%20ColecoVision%20only).dat')
                      crc32 * | while read line; do if [[ -z $(echo $online_dat|grep $(echo $line|cut -d ' ' -f 1)) ]]; then echo $line; fi; done | while read line; do if [[ -z $(echo $online_dat|grep -i $(echo $line|cut -d ' ' -f 2|cut -d '-' -f 1)) ]]; then echo $line; fi; done
                      
                      

                      btw :I did not test these games one by one !

                      This is the list of possible games that aren't in the dat-list :
                      ( I hope it's not toooo much for you 😊 )

                      šŸ‘ => added by @barbudreadmon
                      āœ” => were already in the dat with different rom-sets

                      šŸ‘ b6254fc5 421-2002.rom -> 421
                      šŸ‘ 39c5a7e9 bejeweled-2002.rom -> bejeweled
                      šŸ‘ b05fb3ec breakout-1999.rom -> breakout
                      šŸ‘ 99f3cbc9 canadian-mini-games-2008.rom -> canamini
                      šŸ‘ 1b3a8639 deflektor-kollection-2003.rom -> deflektor
                      šŸ‘ 89875c52 flicky-2018.rom -> flicky
                      šŸ‘ 5a6c2d2f insane-pickin-sticks-viii-2010.rom -> insanepick
                      šŸ‘ 819a06e5 kevtris-1996.rom -> kevtris
                      šŸ‘ 278c5021 klondike-solitaire-2021.rom -> ksolitaire
                      šŸ‘ f4314bb1 magical-tree-2006.rom -> magtree
                      šŸ‘ a60be082 mopiranger-2012.rom -> mopirang
                      šŸ‘ a82c9593 pacar-2017.rom -> pacar
                      šŸ‘ 137d6c4c purple-dinosaur-massacre-1996.rom -> purpdino
                      šŸ‘ f7052b06 pyramid-warp-battleship-clapton-2-2009.rom -> pyrawbc2
                      šŸ‘ 2331b6f6 reversi-and-diamond-dash-2004.rom -> reversdd
                      šŸ‘ 570b9935 road-fighter-2007.rom -> roadfght
                      šŸ‘ 23988ef9 search-for-the-stolen-crown-jewels-3-2013.rom -> sftscj3
                      šŸ‘ 54d54968 sky-jaguar-2004.rom -> skyjag
                      šŸ‘ 9a3b8587 smurfs-save-the-day-1985.rom -> smurfsav
                      šŸ‘ deed811e spunky-s-super-car-2014.rom -> spunkysc
                      šŸ‘ d642fb9e waterville-rescue-2009.rom -> watervil
                      šŸ‘ eaa5f606 winky-trap-2007.rom -> winktrap
                      šŸ‘ 471240bb yie-ar-kung-fu-2005.rom -> yiear
                      šŸ‘ 44e6948c zippy-race-2009.rom -> zippyrac

                      āœ” 23a35399 squares-2008.rom
                      āœ” 8afd7db2 root-beer-tapper-1984.rom

                      I picked these ones out manually :
                      šŸ‘ 832586bf front-line-s-c-e-2015.rom -> frntlnsce
                      šŸ‘ af9b178c space-invasion-1998.rom -> spaceinvasion
                      šŸ‘ 7f06e25c war-2014.rom -> war

                      āœ” 546f2c54 mr-do-s-castle-1984.rom
                      āœ” ef50e1c5 one-on-one-basketball-1984.rom

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                        DTEAM @Folly
                        last edited by DTEAM

                        @folly
                        @barbudreadmon
                        @AdamBeGood
                        Thanks all, another new system on my Pi!
                        launching.png

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                          Folly @DTEAM
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                          @dteam

                          Nice theme !

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                            DTEAM @Folly
                            last edited by DTEAM

                            @folly
                            Hi Folly,
                            Could you copy your working lines into emulator.cfg for Lr-Mess and FBneo please.

                            It's fine !! Working well with Lr-Mess, MAME standalone, lr-FBneo and openMSX !!

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                              DTEAM @Folly
                              last edited by DTEAM

                              @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                              FBNeo : 34/36 work

                              can only load from FBNeo rom-sets (with this setup)
                              using coleco num-pad key's can be an issue sometimes <---------------------

                              @barbudreadmon
                              Is there a way to set buttons in retroarch like this:f10f27de-e099-11e6-97a4-ecbbc82c9e46.png

                              lr-Fbneo is one of my favorite emulator, but for Coleco it's not playable with the actual controller setup.

                              Am I wrong?

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                                barbudreadmon @DTEAM
                                last edited by barbudreadmon

                                @dteam said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                Is there a way to set buttons in retroarch like this

                                You mean as default mapping ? Well, i've no strong attachment to current coleco default mapping, but is there any reason for this one to be better ?

                                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                  DTEAM
                                  last edited by DTEAM

                                  @barbudreadmon said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                  You mean as default mapping ?

                                  No, that's fine I reset my retroarch file. Now It's seems ok. Sorry for that.

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                                    barbudreadmon @Folly
                                    last edited by

                                    @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                    8afd7db2 root-beer-tapper-1984.rom
                                    546f2c54 mr-do-s-castle-1984.rom
                                    ef50e1c5 one-on-one-basketball-1984.rom

                                    Those 3 are already supported, just different versions of the romsets (tapper, mrdo and 1on1). I added another bunch of coleco games today, i'll try to finish your list this week-end.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      barbudreadmon @Folly
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                                      @folly i just finished that list

                                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                        Folly @barbudreadmon
                                        last edited by

                                        @barbudreadmon said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                        @folly i just finished that list

                                        Thank you for the lot of work you have done 😊
                                        Very cool to see that we now have great support almost all games.
                                        Perhaps I will some tests with other romsets too, but I think we are very good now.
                                        When I have some time, I will convert my roms to FBNeo romsets to test them.

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                                          Folly
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          In this thread many coleco roms have been added to FBNeo.
                                          I have made a small script that will convert all the these roms to fbneo rom-sets.

                                          Perhaps it's not perfect, but it will work on most files.
                                          Make sure you :

                                          • (always be sure you have backups)
                                          • update fbneo from source so the roms will work and the new dat-file can be used in this script
                                          • add coleco.rom,colecoa.rom,czz50.rom,svi603.rom to the rom directory
                                          • cd to your rom directory
                                          • check if crc32 is installed on your computer otherwise install it first (check with "crc32 *")
                                          #make the directory fbneo_zips inside the rom directory
                                          mkdir fbneo_zips
                                          #list only the roms you want to convert and use every file to automate things
                                          ls -w1 *.rom|grep -v coleco.rom|grep -v colecoa.rom|grep -v cczz50.rom|grep -v svi.rom|while read line
                                          do 
                                          #get the crc of the rom
                                          crc=$(crc32 "$line")
                                          #read the fbneo name from the dat using the crc if there is a match, with no match the string becomes empty
                                          fbneo_name=$(cat '/opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-fbneo/dats/FinalBurn Neo (ClrMame Pro XML, ColecoVision only).dat'|grep -B 4 $crc|grep "game name"| cut -d '"' -f 2)
                                          #check if it isn't empty and output all the data and create the zip file
                                          if [[ -n "$fbneo_name" ]];then
                                          echo $crc $line $fbneo_name
                                          zip fbneo_zips/$fbneo_name.zip "$line" coleco.rom colecoa.rom czz50.rom svi603.rom
                                          fi
                                          #until every file is done
                                          done
                                          
                                          

                                          Just copy and paste this in the terminal or make your own script file.
                                          Good luck !

                                          Edit :
                                          Year 2025
                                          Above script doesn't work any more, you can find the fixed one over here :
                                          Post 13 : B how to build coleco romset for fbneo ?

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                                            mitu Global Moderator
                                            last edited by mitu

                                            @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                            #This file can be removed, it seems to be a temporary file created by zip
                                            rm "fbneo_zips/.zip"

                                            This is most likely a broken filename or stray newline that generates this, zip doesn't create any temporary .zip files.

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