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    Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.

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      barbudreadmon @Folly
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      @folly "Flapee Byrd" added, feel free to suggest any other coleco game we are missing.

      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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        DTEAM @Folly
        last edited by DTEAM

        @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

        Not sure, but I think there are much more missing.

        Flappe Byrd is in the Homebrew list
        https://cvaddict.com/list.php?filter=3

        but not in the filtred list for Super Game Module see:
        https://cvaddict.com/list.php?filter=8

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          Folly @DTEAM
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          @dteam

          We have done all SGM games already, I think.
          So I was aware of fact that Flappy isn't an SGM one, because it's a 32kb rom.
          I should have mentioned it before.

          I added this because we want good support for all the games out there, not only sgm's
          @barbudreadmon also added it like a homebrew only, so I think we are good, don't you think too ?

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            Folly @barbudreadmon
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            @barbudreadmon

            I made some quick bash lines to check crc32 and the first word of a all games against the dat list.

            I used these lines to check the roms against the online dat :
            (cd to your rom directory first !)

            online_dat=$(curl 'https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libretro/FBNeo/master/dats/FinalBurn%20Neo%20(ClrMame%20Pro%20XML%2C%20ColecoVision%20only).dat')
            crc32 * | while read line; do if [[ -z $(echo $online_dat|grep $(echo $line|cut -d ' ' -f 1)) ]]; then echo $line; fi; done | while read line; do if [[ -z $(echo $online_dat|grep -i $(echo $line|cut -d ' ' -f 2|cut -d '-' -f 1)) ]]; then echo $line; fi; done
            
            

            btw :I did not test these games one by one !

            This is the list of possible games that aren't in the dat-list :
            ( I hope it's not toooo much for you 😊 )

            👍 => added by @barbudreadmon
            ✔ => were already in the dat with different rom-sets

            👍 b6254fc5 421-2002.rom -> 421
            👍 39c5a7e9 bejeweled-2002.rom -> bejeweled
            👍 b05fb3ec breakout-1999.rom -> breakout
            👍 99f3cbc9 canadian-mini-games-2008.rom -> canamini
            👍 1b3a8639 deflektor-kollection-2003.rom -> deflektor
            👍 89875c52 flicky-2018.rom -> flicky
            👍 5a6c2d2f insane-pickin-sticks-viii-2010.rom -> insanepick
            👍 819a06e5 kevtris-1996.rom -> kevtris
            👍 278c5021 klondike-solitaire-2021.rom -> ksolitaire
            👍 f4314bb1 magical-tree-2006.rom -> magtree
            👍 a60be082 mopiranger-2012.rom -> mopirang
            👍 a82c9593 pacar-2017.rom -> pacar
            👍 137d6c4c purple-dinosaur-massacre-1996.rom -> purpdino
            👍 f7052b06 pyramid-warp-battleship-clapton-2-2009.rom -> pyrawbc2
            👍 2331b6f6 reversi-and-diamond-dash-2004.rom -> reversdd
            👍 570b9935 road-fighter-2007.rom -> roadfght
            👍 23988ef9 search-for-the-stolen-crown-jewels-3-2013.rom -> sftscj3
            👍 54d54968 sky-jaguar-2004.rom -> skyjag
            👍 9a3b8587 smurfs-save-the-day-1985.rom -> smurfsav
            👍 deed811e spunky-s-super-car-2014.rom -> spunkysc
            👍 d642fb9e waterville-rescue-2009.rom -> watervil
            👍 eaa5f606 winky-trap-2007.rom -> winktrap
            👍 471240bb yie-ar-kung-fu-2005.rom -> yiear
            👍 44e6948c zippy-race-2009.rom -> zippyrac

            ✔ 23a35399 squares-2008.rom
            ✔ 8afd7db2 root-beer-tapper-1984.rom

            I picked these ones out manually :
            👍 832586bf front-line-s-c-e-2015.rom -> frntlnsce
            👍 af9b178c space-invasion-1998.rom -> spaceinvasion
            👍 7f06e25c war-2014.rom -> war

            ✔ 546f2c54 mr-do-s-castle-1984.rom
            ✔ ef50e1c5 one-on-one-basketball-1984.rom

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            • DTEAMD
              DTEAM @Folly
              last edited by DTEAM

              @folly
              @barbudreadmon
              @AdamBeGood
              Thanks all, another new system on my Pi!
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                Folly @DTEAM
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                @dteam

                Nice theme !

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                  DTEAM @Folly
                  last edited by DTEAM

                  @folly
                  Hi Folly,
                  Could you copy your working lines into emulator.cfg for Lr-Mess and FBneo please.

                  It's fine !! Working well with Lr-Mess, MAME standalone, lr-FBneo and openMSX !!

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                    DTEAM @Folly
                    last edited by DTEAM

                    @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                    FBNeo : 34/36 work

                    can only load from FBNeo rom-sets (with this setup)
                    using coleco num-pad key's can be an issue sometimes <---------------------

                    @barbudreadmon
                    Is there a way to set buttons in retroarch like this:f10f27de-e099-11e6-97a4-ecbbc82c9e46.png

                    lr-Fbneo is one of my favorite emulator, but for Coleco it's not playable with the actual controller setup.

                    Am I wrong?

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                      barbudreadmon @DTEAM
                      last edited by barbudreadmon

                      @dteam said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                      Is there a way to set buttons in retroarch like this

                      You mean as default mapping ? Well, i've no strong attachment to current coleco default mapping, but is there any reason for this one to be better ?

                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                      • DTEAMD
                        DTEAM
                        last edited by DTEAM

                        @barbudreadmon said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                        You mean as default mapping ?

                        No, that's fine I reset my retroarch file. Now It's seems ok. Sorry for that.

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                          barbudreadmon @Folly
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                          @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                          8afd7db2 root-beer-tapper-1984.rom
                          546f2c54 mr-do-s-castle-1984.rom
                          ef50e1c5 one-on-one-basketball-1984.rom

                          Those 3 are already supported, just different versions of the romsets (tapper, mrdo and 1on1). I added another bunch of coleco games today, i'll try to finish your list this week-end.

                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            barbudreadmon @Folly
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                            @folly i just finished that list

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              Folly @barbudreadmon
                              last edited by

                              @barbudreadmon said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                              @folly i just finished that list

                              Thank you for the lot of work you have done 😊
                              Very cool to see that we now have great support almost all games.
                              Perhaps I will some tests with other romsets too, but I think we are very good now.
                              When I have some time, I will convert my roms to FBNeo romsets to test them.

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                                Folly
                                last edited by Folly

                                In this thread many coleco roms have been added to FBNeo.
                                I have made a small script that will convert all the these roms to fbneo rom-sets.

                                Perhaps it's not perfect, but it will work on most files.
                                Make sure you :

                                • (always be sure you have backups)
                                • update fbneo from source so the roms will work and the new dat-file can be used in this script
                                • add coleco.rom,colecoa.rom,czz50.rom,svi603.rom to the rom directory
                                • cd to your rom directory
                                • check if crc32 is installed on your computer otherwise install it first (check with "crc32 *")
                                #make the directory fbneo_zips inside the rom directory
                                mkdir fbneo_zips
                                #list only the roms you want to convert and use every file to automate things
                                ls -w1 *.rom|grep -v coleco.rom|grep -v colecoa.rom|grep -v cczz50.rom|grep -v svi.rom|while read line
                                do 
                                #get the crc of the rom
                                crc=$(crc32 "$line")
                                #read the fbneo name from the dat using the crc if there is a match, with no match the string becomes empty
                                fbneo_name=$(cat '/opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-fbneo/dats/FinalBurn Neo (ClrMame Pro XML, ColecoVision only).dat'|grep -B 4 $crc|grep "game name"| cut -d '"' -f 2)
                                #check if it isn't empty and output all the data and create the zip file
                                if [[ -n "$fbneo_name" ]];then
                                echo $crc $line $fbneo_name
                                zip fbneo_zips/$fbneo_name.zip "$line" coleco.rom colecoa.rom czz50.rom svi603.rom
                                fi
                                #until every file is done
                                done
                                
                                

                                Just copy and paste this in the terminal or make your own script file.
                                Good luck !

                                Edit :
                                Year 2025
                                Above script doesn't work any more, you can find the fixed one over here :
                                Post 13 : B how to build coleco romset for fbneo ?

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                                  mitu Global Moderator
                                  last edited by mitu

                                  @folly said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                  #This file can be removed, it seems to be a temporary file created by zip
                                  rm "fbneo_zips/.zip"

                                  This is most likely a broken filename or stray newline that generates this, zip doesn't create any temporary .zip files.

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                                    Folly @mitu
                                    last edited by Folly

                                    @mitu

                                    Thanks for the information ;-)

                                    I made a small mistake.
                                    I used a condition instead of an if function.
                                    So the zip line used the empty strings and the not wanted strings also, therefor creating the not wanted .zip file.
                                    I have updated the script, the problem should be solved now.

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                                      DTEAM @Folly
                                      last edited by

                                      @folly
                                      Hi folly , I didn't found an equivalent for fbneo (for those games)

                                      Do you know if they exist?

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                                        Folly @DTEAM
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        @dteam

                                        They exist.
                                        They are in the retropie-archive of cva...... .

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                                          barbudreadmon @DTEAM
                                          last edited by

                                          @dteam

                                          • Stone of Wisdom exists (romset is named stonew)
                                          • We got the Destructor romset from 1984 (romset is named destruct)
                                          • I don't see the 4 others, so i guess we don't emulate them ?

                                          I'll add the 4 missing games and the 2010 variant of Destructor later today.

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                            DTEAM @barbudreadmon
                                            last edited by

                                            @barbudreadmon said in Colecovision Start-Up Error: Turn Game Off Before Inserting Cartridge or Expansion Module.:

                                            @dteam

                                            Stone of Wisdom exists (romset is named stonew)
                                            We got the Destructor romset from 1984 (romset is named destruct)
                                            I don't see the 4 others, so i guess we don't emulate them ?

                                            I'll add the 4 missing games and the 2010 variant of Destructor later today.

                                            Thanks !

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