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      G30FF @barbudreadmon
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      @barbudreadmon I updated from source, and yes, that did fix the issue! Thanks!

      I tested out a couple of games with the performance updates, and they worked well with the CPU clocked to 50%. It wasn't a thorough test, but at 50% CPU it seemed to work better than the last update.

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        Darksavior @barbudreadmon
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        @barbudreadmon I've only tested deathsmiles black label (50% cpu) and it got a huge boost. Even better than mame2016. It's now 59-60fps most of the time with 57-58fps dips. The vertical level will still dip into 53-55fps but it's still a big improvement.

        I'm using retropie on bullseye 64bit lite, 2000 cpu/750 gpu, glcore, 1440p crt-pi shader.

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          barbudreadmon @Darksavior
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          @Darksavior Yeah, the emulation is almost twice faster on my desktop at 100% cpu, That improvement is about the sh3/sh4 interpreter and will have less of an effect if you downclock that cpu, but it should still be quite noticeable.

          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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            G30FF @barbudreadmon
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            @barbudreadmon I was playing some NeoGeo games on my Pi, and I tried out the Crossed Swords II MVS/AES conversion (crswd2bl.zip). The game has a number of graphical glitches, with sprites that appear to stutter and flicker. They don't seem to affect gameplay, and the game still works aside from this. I don't think it's an issue with the conversion, as I see the same problem using a Redump version of the Neo Geo CD version. The bug is not present if I run the game in lr-neocd, but it is present in lr-fbneo.

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              barbudreadmon @G30FF
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              @G30FF Thanks for the report ! I'm surprised no one ever reported that one, the fix is on git.

              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                G30FF @barbudreadmon
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                @barbudreadmon Yep, the problem is fixed now! Thanks!

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                  G30FF @barbudreadmon
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                  @barbudreadmon It seems that now the flickering sprites issue is happening in Blazing Star, on the level 2 backgrounds at least.

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                    barbudreadmon @G30FF
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                    @G30FF Sorry for the late answer, i wasn't home for the past few days. The issue was reported and fixed upstream last week, but i couldn't sync the libretro port immediately, it's done now :)

                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                      G30FF @barbudreadmon
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                      @barbudreadmon No problem at all! I built from source and can confirm it's fixed. Thanks!

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                        roslof
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                        Well done FB-Neo crew (@barbudreadmon and @dinkc64) for pulling this off so quickly. Do y'all ever sleep?

                        marblmd2.jpg

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                          barbudreadmon @roslof
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                          @roslof Another rarity named "Megumi Rescue" was also dumped and added over the past few days :)

                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            roslof @barbudreadmon
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                            @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                            @roslof Another rarity named "Megumi Rescue" was also dumped and added over the past few days :)

                            So, you don't sleep. And you're keeping me up. :P

                            megrescu.jpg

                            ...and I think dinkc64 might be a robot.

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                              Machtroid
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                              Is there an easy way for me to see what games have become supported in fbneo since the last time I updated this emulator in retropie, lets say May of 2021? I want to update but I would like to know how many games have become supported in the past year or so, if possible.

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                                barbudreadmon @Machtroid
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                                @Machtroid said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                Is there an easy way for me to see what games have become supported in fbneo since the last time I updated this emulator in retropie, lets say May of 2021

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                                @Machtroid said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                I want to update but I would like to know how many games have become supported in the past year or so, if possible.

                                Not including clones & hacks, probably more than a hundred.

                                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                  Folly @Machtroid
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                                  @Machtroid

                                  I compared the arcade dat files for game names.
                                  (2 may 2021 and recent)

                                  Up until now 399 game entries were added. ( removals not take into account here !)
                                  273 of them are clones.

                                  The non-clones are :
                                  akatana aa alpha1v bace borench bublbust chinhero berabohm columns columns2 crashh crush cyclemb cyclshtg dderby deathsml dsmbl dicegame discoboy dfkbl ddpdfk ddpsdoj dokaben2 dynamski espgal2 exerion finallap finalap2 finalap3 fourtrax harem heiankyo hypernoid ibara ibarablk ltorb lazybug looptris magicstk marblmd2 megrescu mslughb missile headonch mrsdyna mspactwin mmpork mushisam futaribl futari15 shoottv nsub nycaptor namenayo neopang 3in1semi nostromo ooparts peekaboo pinkswts playball pcktgal potopoto powerbal wldcourt ws puyo puyopuy2 ichir tantr mushitam redclash ribbit samurai ssonicbr sonicfgt shangkid skydest sokoban speccies sqij stkclmns suzuka8h suzuk8h2 daraku ctower tfrceac timesup twinsqua vsrbibbal vsbattlecity vscastlevania vsclucluland vsdrmario vsduckhunt vsexcitebike vsfreedomforce vsfrombelow vsgoonies vsgradius vsgumshoe vshogansalley vsiceclimber vsmachrider vsmightybomjack vsninjajkun vspinball vsplatoon vsraidbbay vsslalom vssoccer vsstarluster vssmgolfla vssmgolf vssmb vssuperskykid vssuperxevious vstetris vstkoboxing vstopgun wwmarine soniccar wbml xenocrisis zerohour zunkyou

                                  Conclusion: amongst others a lot of Nintendo VS titles have been added in the last year.

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                                    roslof @Folly
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                                    @Folly said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                    Conclusion: amongst others a lot of Nintendo VS titles have been added in the last year.

                                    And every Cave game, I believe (some of the best bullet-hell shmups you'll every see).

                                    @Folly this is great. I know how to do diffs, but not how to easily extract the deltas like you did. Cheers!

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                                      YFZdude @roslof
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                                      @roslof
                                      A clever use of grep and cut will produce a one word per line list of strictly the rom names.

                                      After that there are probably numerous ways to compare them. I would likely use Excel (Calc) to paste the two lists into two columns and then use a formula with a combination of IF and VLOOKUP to display a blank cell in column 3 if the value in column 2 is found within column 1, else display the rom name in column 3.

                                      Alternate method might be if you already use clrmamepro you can just insert the new .dat file and let it tell you what you are missing. I believe wholly missing roms show up differently than roms with a file or two mismatch indicating they have been redumped.

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                                        Riverstorm
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                                        This was quick and dirty for fun as I had something close already written in Python but there might be mistakes. :) I did a straight compare between the DAT from may 1st, 2021 and the current one (3 days ago). Game ROM names only no BIOS files, if they changed even.

                                        I came up with 352 additions (that does count games that were renamed so the real number might be a bit lower). Something for example like bloodstm10 renamed to bloodstm104, it's going to count it as new.

                                        Comparing them in reverse I came up with a list of 25. I would assume these are the games that were renamed or possibly removed from FBNeo. The lists are below.

                                        New and renamed games:

                                        3in1semia
                                        aa
                                        akatana
                                        aliens4
                                        alpha1v
                                        armwarb
                                        astyanaxa
                                        asukaja
                                        asurabusj
                                        asurabusja
                                        asurabusjr
                                        atombjt
                                        bace
                                        batsugunc
                                        blastero
                                        blazstarcm
                                        bloodbrom
                                        bloodstm104
                                        bloodstm110
                                        bloodstm210
                                        bloodstm220
                                        bloodstm221
                                        bloxeedc
                                        bloxeedu
                                        borench
                                        borencha
                                        borenchj
                                        brkthrubl
                                        brkthrut
                                        bronx
                                        bublbust
                                        bucanera
                                        cadashgo
                                        chinhero
                                        chinhero2
                                        chinhero3
                                        chinherot
                                        cityatta
                                        cnbe2018
                                        colt
                                        column2j
                                        columns2
                                        columnsj
                                        columnsu
                                        crashh
                                        crshrace2a
                                        crush3
                                        ctower
                                        cybotsam
                                        cyclemb
                                        cyclshtg
                                        dderby
                                        ddpdfk
                                        ddpdfk10
                                        ddpsdoj
                                        deathsml
                                        devilfshg
                                        devilfshgb
                                        dfkbl
                                        dicegame
                                        dietgoea
                                        discoboy
                                        discoboyp
                                        dkfreerun
                                        dkongbp
                                        dkongbp1
                                        dkongchm
                                        dkongchm1
                                        dkongitd
                                        dkongss
                                        dkongst
                                        dkongst2
                                        dkongtj
                                        docastle2
                                        docastleo
                                        dogyuunb
                                        dokaben2
                                        dorunrun2
                                        dorunrunc
                                        dorunrunca
                                        doubledrsp
                                        douni
                                        dsmbl
                                        dynamski
                                        earthjkrb
                                        emeraldah
                                        espgal2
                                        espgal2a
                                        exerion
                                        exerionb
                                        exeriont
                                        finalap2
                                        finalap2j
                                        finalap3
                                        finalap3a
                                        finalap3bl
                                        finalap3j
                                        finalap3jc
                                        finallap
                                        finallapc
                                        finallapd
                                        finallapjb
                                        finallapjc
                                        finger
                                        floritas
                                        floritasm
                                        fourtrax
                                        fourtraxa
                                        fourtraxj
                                        futari10
                                        futari15
                                        futari15a
                                        futaribl
                                        futariblj
                                        galpaniex
                                        galpaniska
                                        harem
                                        headonch
                                        heiankyo
                                        hiryuken
                                        hotminda
                                        hsf2pp
                                        hypernoid
                                        ibara
                                        ibarablk
                                        ibarablka
                                        ichir
                                        ichirbl
                                        ichirj
                                        ichirjbl
                                        ichirk
                                        irion
                                        jojobanrb
                                        kangarool
                                        kchamptec
                                        kf2k3ps2sp
                                        killbld100
                                        kof2001ru
                                        kof2002ps2
                                        kof2k1rp
                                        kof2kxxx
                                        kof97ip
                                        kof97tp
                                        kof98bc2nd
                                        kof98eckg
                                        kof98ecky
                                        kof98ratio
                                        kof99eur2
                                        kov21022
                                        kov2dzxx
                                        kovassge
                                        kovassgn
                                        kovlsqho
                                        kovplus12dw
                                        kovplus20tx
                                        ktiger2p
                                        lazybug
                                        legionj2
                                        looptris
                                        magicstk
                                        magmaxa
                                        majest12ua
                                        majest12ub
                                        marblmd2
                                        megrescu
                                        midres2
                                        mirninjaa
                                        missile
                                        missile1
                                        missile2
                                        mmpork
                                        mooncreg2
                                        mototoura
                                        mrsdyna
                                        mslug2unity
                                        mslug3unity
                                        mslug4a
                                        mslug4lw
                                        mslug4unity
                                        mslug5unity
                                        mslug5wd
                                        mslughb
                                        mslugunity
                                        mslugxunity
                                        mspacmanlai
                                        mspactwin
                                        mushisam
                                        mushisama
                                        mushisamb
                                        mushitam
                                        mushitama
                                        namenayo
                                        neopang
                                        nitrobalb
                                        nostromo
                                        nsub
                                        nycaptor
                                        oldsplusok
                                        olibug
                                        ooparts
                                        orlegendea
                                        outfxiesja
                                        pacminer
                                        painter
                                        pcktgal
                                        pcktgal2
                                        pcktgal2j
                                        pcktgalb
                                        pengo6
                                        pinkswts
                                        pinkswtsa
                                        pinkswtsb
                                        pinkswtssc
                                        pinkswtsx
                                        playball
                                        potopoto
                                        powerbal
                                        punisherhr
                                        punisherly
                                        puyo
                                        puyobl
                                        puyoj
                                        puyoja
                                        puyopuy2
                                        pzlbreaka
                                        radarscpc
                                        raflesiau
                                        redclash
                                        redclashs
                                        redclasht
                                        redclashta
                                        redhawksa
                                        redufob3
                                        ribbit
                                        ribbitj
                                        roboarmya
                                        rodlandjb2
                                        route16d
                                        ryourano
                                        samuraij
                                        saurobl
                                        sdojak
                                        seawolft
                                        sengoku3eb
                                        sf2amf10
                                        sf2amf9
                                        sf2rk2
                                        sfiii2h
                                        sformulaa
                                        sfz2alr1
                                        sfz3mix
                                        shangkid
                                        shoottv
                                        silkwormb2
                                        skydest
                                        skysharkb
                                        sokoban
                                        soniccar
                                        sonicfgt
                                        sotsugyok
                                        spcmission
                                        speccies
                                        spf2xpri
                                        spiero
                                        spinlbrkup
                                        spool3
                                        spool3i
                                        sqij
                                        ssf2us2
                                        ssf2xjr1trn
                                        ssonicbr
                                        stkclmns
                                        stkclmnsj
                                        striderfix
                                        supershp
                                        suprmatk
                                        suprmatkd
                                        suzuk8h2
                                        suzuk8h2j
                                        suzuka8h
                                        suzuka8hj
                                        svghk
                                        tail2nosa
                                        tantr
                                        tantrbl
                                        tantrbl2
                                        tantrbl3
                                        tantrbl4
                                        tantrkor
                                        tdragonb3
                                        tempall
                                        temped
                                        temptwst
                                        tfrceac
                                        tfrceacb
                                        tfrceacj
                                        tfrceacjpb
                                        timekill120
                                        twinsqua
                                        umk3uk
                                        vbrakout
                                        vsbattlecity
                                        vscastlevania
                                        vsclucluland
                                        vsdrmario
                                        vsduckhunt
                                        vsexcitebike
                                        vsfreedomforce
                                        vsfrombelow
                                        vsgoonies
                                        vsgradius
                                        vsgumshoe
                                        vshogansalley
                                        vsiceclimber
                                        vsmachrider
                                        vsmightybomjack
                                        vsninjajkun
                                        vspinball
                                        vsplatoon
                                        vsraidbbay
                                        vsrbibbal
                                        vsslalom
                                        vssmb
                                        vssmgolf
                                        vssmgolfla
                                        vssoccer
                                        vsstarluster
                                        vssuperskykid
                                        vssuperxevious
                                        vstetris
                                        vstkoboxing
                                        vstopgun
                                        wavybug
                                        wbmlbg
                                        wbmlbge
                                        wbmld
                                        wbmljod
                                        wbmlvcd
                                        wofabla
                                        wrallyc
                                        wwallyja3p
                                        wwfmanac
                                        wwmarine
                                        xenocrisis
                                        xmvsfcph
                                        xsleenab
                                        xsleenaba
                                        zerohour
                                        zerohoura
                                        zerohouri
                                        zolapac
                                        zunkyou
                                        

                                        Reverse compare (possible renamed games or removed from FBNeo altogether):

                                        asurabusa
                                        devilfsg
                                        kf2k2ps2b
                                        kinst
                                        kinst13
                                        kinst14
                                        kinst15ai
                                        kinst2
                                        kinst210
                                        kinst211
                                        kinst213
                                        kinst214ai
                                        kof97inv
                                        kof97t2020
                                        kof98eck20
                                        kof98eckvs
                                        kof99rp2f
                                        kovassga
                                        kovplus2020tx
                                        ltorb1
                                        roboarma
                                        spcdraga
                                        spinlbrkjp
                                        umk3pb1
                                        umk3uc
                                        
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                                          barbudreadmon
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                                          @Riverstorm Let's continue the discussion from mame2003+'s topic here, i did a few changes and the raster/vector info is now available in our dats. FYI i added the geometry info last year by user's request.

                                          Afaik Killer Instinct is the only game that was ever removed from FB, so i'd assume the other games were renamed.

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                            Ashpool @barbudreadmon
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                                            @barbudreadmon & @Riverstorm Sorry to interrupt - but for a personal project of mine (started aeons ago) where I am converting mame/FBN xmls t via python into csv/xlsx into human readable columns I am interested in... (short rant: ever changing xml struct, I never found a reliable source for the changes, and what each entry really mean...), but I am curious - ever since (listxml was possible) in mame - they differed in screen vector or raster, later lcd,svg and maybe others where added... but whenever mamedat/xml is refering to screen = vector, width and heigth (x/y pixel resolution) is ommited (makes sense IMHO), but FBN is providing such (well, maybe an artifact before type vector was added, as it was provided before for vector games)... is the (previous) x/y-data for vector games of any use and how could it be utilized? Or was it just a necessity out of not differing between raster/vector?

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