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      barbudreadmon @Darksavior
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      @Darksavior Yeah, the emulation is almost twice faster on my desktop at 100% cpu, That improvement is about the sh3/sh4 interpreter and will have less of an effect if you downclock that cpu, but it should still be quite noticeable.

      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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        G30FF @barbudreadmon
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        @barbudreadmon I was playing some NeoGeo games on my Pi, and I tried out the Crossed Swords II MVS/AES conversion (crswd2bl.zip). The game has a number of graphical glitches, with sprites that appear to stutter and flicker. They don't seem to affect gameplay, and the game still works aside from this. I don't think it's an issue with the conversion, as I see the same problem using a Redump version of the Neo Geo CD version. The bug is not present if I run the game in lr-neocd, but it is present in lr-fbneo.

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          barbudreadmon @G30FF
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          @G30FF Thanks for the report ! I'm surprised no one ever reported that one, the fix is on git.

          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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            G30FF @barbudreadmon
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            @barbudreadmon Yep, the problem is fixed now! Thanks!

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              G30FF @barbudreadmon
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              @barbudreadmon It seems that now the flickering sprites issue is happening in Blazing Star, on the level 2 backgrounds at least.

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                barbudreadmon @G30FF
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                @G30FF Sorry for the late answer, i wasn't home for the past few days. The issue was reported and fixed upstream last week, but i couldn't sync the libretro port immediately, it's done now :)

                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                  G30FF @barbudreadmon
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                  @barbudreadmon No problem at all! I built from source and can confirm it's fixed. Thanks!

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                    roslof
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                    Well done FB-Neo crew (@barbudreadmon and @dinkc64) for pulling this off so quickly. Do y'all ever sleep?

                    marblmd2.jpg

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                      barbudreadmon @roslof
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                      @roslof Another rarity named "Megumi Rescue" was also dumped and added over the past few days :)

                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                        roslof @barbudreadmon
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                        @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                        @roslof Another rarity named "Megumi Rescue" was also dumped and added over the past few days :)

                        So, you don't sleep. And you're keeping me up. :P

                        megrescu.jpg

                        ...and I think dinkc64 might be a robot.

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                          Machtroid
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                          Is there an easy way for me to see what games have become supported in fbneo since the last time I updated this emulator in retropie, lets say May of 2021? I want to update but I would like to know how many games have become supported in the past year or so, if possible.

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                            barbudreadmon @Machtroid
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                            @Machtroid said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                            Is there an easy way for me to see what games have become supported in fbneo since the last time I updated this emulator in retropie, lets say May of 2021

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                            @Machtroid said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                            I want to update but I would like to know how many games have become supported in the past year or so, if possible.

                            Not including clones & hacks, probably more than a hundred.

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              Folly @Machtroid
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                              @Machtroid

                              I compared the arcade dat files for game names.
                              (2 may 2021 and recent)

                              Up until now 399 game entries were added. ( removals not take into account here !)
                              273 of them are clones.

                              The non-clones are :
                              akatana aa alpha1v bace borench bublbust chinhero berabohm columns columns2 crashh crush cyclemb cyclshtg dderby deathsml dsmbl dicegame discoboy dfkbl ddpdfk ddpsdoj dokaben2 dynamski espgal2 exerion finallap finalap2 finalap3 fourtrax harem heiankyo hypernoid ibara ibarablk ltorb lazybug looptris magicstk marblmd2 megrescu mslughb missile headonch mrsdyna mspactwin mmpork mushisam futaribl futari15 shoottv nsub nycaptor namenayo neopang 3in1semi nostromo ooparts peekaboo pinkswts playball pcktgal potopoto powerbal wldcourt ws puyo puyopuy2 ichir tantr mushitam redclash ribbit samurai ssonicbr sonicfgt shangkid skydest sokoban speccies sqij stkclmns suzuka8h suzuk8h2 daraku ctower tfrceac timesup twinsqua vsrbibbal vsbattlecity vscastlevania vsclucluland vsdrmario vsduckhunt vsexcitebike vsfreedomforce vsfrombelow vsgoonies vsgradius vsgumshoe vshogansalley vsiceclimber vsmachrider vsmightybomjack vsninjajkun vspinball vsplatoon vsraidbbay vsslalom vssoccer vsstarluster vssmgolfla vssmgolf vssmb vssuperskykid vssuperxevious vstetris vstkoboxing vstopgun wwmarine soniccar wbml xenocrisis zerohour zunkyou

                              Conclusion: amongst others a lot of Nintendo VS titles have been added in the last year.

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                                roslof @Folly
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                                @Folly said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                Conclusion: amongst others a lot of Nintendo VS titles have been added in the last year.

                                And every Cave game, I believe (some of the best bullet-hell shmups you'll every see).

                                @Folly this is great. I know how to do diffs, but not how to easily extract the deltas like you did. Cheers!

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                                  YFZdude @roslof
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                                  @roslof
                                  A clever use of grep and cut will produce a one word per line list of strictly the rom names.

                                  After that there are probably numerous ways to compare them. I would likely use Excel (Calc) to paste the two lists into two columns and then use a formula with a combination of IF and VLOOKUP to display a blank cell in column 3 if the value in column 2 is found within column 1, else display the rom name in column 3.

                                  Alternate method might be if you already use clrmamepro you can just insert the new .dat file and let it tell you what you are missing. I believe wholly missing roms show up differently than roms with a file or two mismatch indicating they have been redumped.

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                                    Riverstorm
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                                    This was quick and dirty for fun as I had something close already written in Python but there might be mistakes. :) I did a straight compare between the DAT from may 1st, 2021 and the current one (3 days ago). Game ROM names only no BIOS files, if they changed even.

                                    I came up with 352 additions (that does count games that were renamed so the real number might be a bit lower). Something for example like bloodstm10 renamed to bloodstm104, it's going to count it as new.

                                    Comparing them in reverse I came up with a list of 25. I would assume these are the games that were renamed or possibly removed from FBNeo. The lists are below.

                                    New and renamed games:

                                    3in1semia
                                    aa
                                    akatana
                                    aliens4
                                    alpha1v
                                    armwarb
                                    astyanaxa
                                    asukaja
                                    asurabusj
                                    asurabusja
                                    asurabusjr
                                    atombjt
                                    bace
                                    batsugunc
                                    blastero
                                    blazstarcm
                                    bloodbrom
                                    bloodstm104
                                    bloodstm110
                                    bloodstm210
                                    bloodstm220
                                    bloodstm221
                                    bloxeedc
                                    bloxeedu
                                    borench
                                    borencha
                                    borenchj
                                    brkthrubl
                                    brkthrut
                                    bronx
                                    bublbust
                                    bucanera
                                    cadashgo
                                    chinhero
                                    chinhero2
                                    chinhero3
                                    chinherot
                                    cityatta
                                    cnbe2018
                                    colt
                                    column2j
                                    columns2
                                    columnsj
                                    columnsu
                                    crashh
                                    crshrace2a
                                    crush3
                                    ctower
                                    cybotsam
                                    cyclemb
                                    cyclshtg
                                    dderby
                                    ddpdfk
                                    ddpdfk10
                                    ddpsdoj
                                    deathsml
                                    devilfshg
                                    devilfshgb
                                    dfkbl
                                    dicegame
                                    dietgoea
                                    discoboy
                                    discoboyp
                                    dkfreerun
                                    dkongbp
                                    dkongbp1
                                    dkongchm
                                    dkongchm1
                                    dkongitd
                                    dkongss
                                    dkongst
                                    dkongst2
                                    dkongtj
                                    docastle2
                                    docastleo
                                    dogyuunb
                                    dokaben2
                                    dorunrun2
                                    dorunrunc
                                    dorunrunca
                                    doubledrsp
                                    douni
                                    dsmbl
                                    dynamski
                                    earthjkrb
                                    emeraldah
                                    espgal2
                                    espgal2a
                                    exerion
                                    exerionb
                                    exeriont
                                    finalap2
                                    finalap2j
                                    finalap3
                                    finalap3a
                                    finalap3bl
                                    finalap3j
                                    finalap3jc
                                    finallap
                                    finallapc
                                    finallapd
                                    finallapjb
                                    finallapjc
                                    finger
                                    floritas
                                    floritasm
                                    fourtrax
                                    fourtraxa
                                    fourtraxj
                                    futari10
                                    futari15
                                    futari15a
                                    futaribl
                                    futariblj
                                    galpaniex
                                    galpaniska
                                    harem
                                    headonch
                                    heiankyo
                                    hiryuken
                                    hotminda
                                    hsf2pp
                                    hypernoid
                                    ibara
                                    ibarablk
                                    ibarablka
                                    ichir
                                    ichirbl
                                    ichirj
                                    ichirjbl
                                    ichirk
                                    irion
                                    jojobanrb
                                    kangarool
                                    kchamptec
                                    kf2k3ps2sp
                                    killbld100
                                    kof2001ru
                                    kof2002ps2
                                    kof2k1rp
                                    kof2kxxx
                                    kof97ip
                                    kof97tp
                                    kof98bc2nd
                                    kof98eckg
                                    kof98ecky
                                    kof98ratio
                                    kof99eur2
                                    kov21022
                                    kov2dzxx
                                    kovassge
                                    kovassgn
                                    kovlsqho
                                    kovplus12dw
                                    kovplus20tx
                                    ktiger2p
                                    lazybug
                                    legionj2
                                    looptris
                                    magicstk
                                    magmaxa
                                    majest12ua
                                    majest12ub
                                    marblmd2
                                    megrescu
                                    midres2
                                    mirninjaa
                                    missile
                                    missile1
                                    missile2
                                    mmpork
                                    mooncreg2
                                    mototoura
                                    mrsdyna
                                    mslug2unity
                                    mslug3unity
                                    mslug4a
                                    mslug4lw
                                    mslug4unity
                                    mslug5unity
                                    mslug5wd
                                    mslughb
                                    mslugunity
                                    mslugxunity
                                    mspacmanlai
                                    mspactwin
                                    mushisam
                                    mushisama
                                    mushisamb
                                    mushitam
                                    mushitama
                                    namenayo
                                    neopang
                                    nitrobalb
                                    nostromo
                                    nsub
                                    nycaptor
                                    oldsplusok
                                    olibug
                                    ooparts
                                    orlegendea
                                    outfxiesja
                                    pacminer
                                    painter
                                    pcktgal
                                    pcktgal2
                                    pcktgal2j
                                    pcktgalb
                                    pengo6
                                    pinkswts
                                    pinkswtsa
                                    pinkswtsb
                                    pinkswtssc
                                    pinkswtsx
                                    playball
                                    potopoto
                                    powerbal
                                    punisherhr
                                    punisherly
                                    puyo
                                    puyobl
                                    puyoj
                                    puyoja
                                    puyopuy2
                                    pzlbreaka
                                    radarscpc
                                    raflesiau
                                    redclash
                                    redclashs
                                    redclasht
                                    redclashta
                                    redhawksa
                                    redufob3
                                    ribbit
                                    ribbitj
                                    roboarmya
                                    rodlandjb2
                                    route16d
                                    ryourano
                                    samuraij
                                    saurobl
                                    sdojak
                                    seawolft
                                    sengoku3eb
                                    sf2amf10
                                    sf2amf9
                                    sf2rk2
                                    sfiii2h
                                    sformulaa
                                    sfz2alr1
                                    sfz3mix
                                    shangkid
                                    shoottv
                                    silkwormb2
                                    skydest
                                    skysharkb
                                    sokoban
                                    soniccar
                                    sonicfgt
                                    sotsugyok
                                    spcmission
                                    speccies
                                    spf2xpri
                                    spiero
                                    spinlbrkup
                                    spool3
                                    spool3i
                                    sqij
                                    ssf2us2
                                    ssf2xjr1trn
                                    ssonicbr
                                    stkclmns
                                    stkclmnsj
                                    striderfix
                                    supershp
                                    suprmatk
                                    suprmatkd
                                    suzuk8h2
                                    suzuk8h2j
                                    suzuka8h
                                    suzuka8hj
                                    svghk
                                    tail2nosa
                                    tantr
                                    tantrbl
                                    tantrbl2
                                    tantrbl3
                                    tantrbl4
                                    tantrkor
                                    tdragonb3
                                    tempall
                                    temped
                                    temptwst
                                    tfrceac
                                    tfrceacb
                                    tfrceacj
                                    tfrceacjpb
                                    timekill120
                                    twinsqua
                                    umk3uk
                                    vbrakout
                                    vsbattlecity
                                    vscastlevania
                                    vsclucluland
                                    vsdrmario
                                    vsduckhunt
                                    vsexcitebike
                                    vsfreedomforce
                                    vsfrombelow
                                    vsgoonies
                                    vsgradius
                                    vsgumshoe
                                    vshogansalley
                                    vsiceclimber
                                    vsmachrider
                                    vsmightybomjack
                                    vsninjajkun
                                    vspinball
                                    vsplatoon
                                    vsraidbbay
                                    vsrbibbal
                                    vsslalom
                                    vssmb
                                    vssmgolf
                                    vssmgolfla
                                    vssoccer
                                    vsstarluster
                                    vssuperskykid
                                    vssuperxevious
                                    vstetris
                                    vstkoboxing
                                    vstopgun
                                    wavybug
                                    wbmlbg
                                    wbmlbge
                                    wbmld
                                    wbmljod
                                    wbmlvcd
                                    wofabla
                                    wrallyc
                                    wwallyja3p
                                    wwfmanac
                                    wwmarine
                                    xenocrisis
                                    xmvsfcph
                                    xsleenab
                                    xsleenaba
                                    zerohour
                                    zerohoura
                                    zerohouri
                                    zolapac
                                    zunkyou
                                    

                                    Reverse compare (possible renamed games or removed from FBNeo altogether):

                                    asurabusa
                                    devilfsg
                                    kf2k2ps2b
                                    kinst
                                    kinst13
                                    kinst14
                                    kinst15ai
                                    kinst2
                                    kinst210
                                    kinst211
                                    kinst213
                                    kinst214ai
                                    kof97inv
                                    kof97t2020
                                    kof98eck20
                                    kof98eckvs
                                    kof99rp2f
                                    kovassga
                                    kovplus2020tx
                                    ltorb1
                                    roboarma
                                    spcdraga
                                    spinlbrkjp
                                    umk3pb1
                                    umk3uc
                                    
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                                      barbudreadmon
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                                      @Riverstorm Let's continue the discussion from mame2003+'s topic here, i did a few changes and the raster/vector info is now available in our dats. FYI i added the geometry info last year by user's request.

                                      Afaik Killer Instinct is the only game that was ever removed from FB, so i'd assume the other games were renamed.

                                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                        Ashpool @barbudreadmon
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                                        @barbudreadmon & @Riverstorm Sorry to interrupt - but for a personal project of mine (started aeons ago) where I am converting mame/FBN xmls t via python into csv/xlsx into human readable columns I am interested in... (short rant: ever changing xml struct, I never found a reliable source for the changes, and what each entry really mean...), but I am curious - ever since (listxml was possible) in mame - they differed in screen vector or raster, later lcd,svg and maybe others where added... but whenever mamedat/xml is refering to screen = vector, width and heigth (x/y pixel resolution) is ommited (makes sense IMHO), but FBN is providing such (well, maybe an artifact before type vector was added, as it was provided before for vector games)... is the (previous) x/y-data for vector games of any use and how could it be utilized? Or was it just a necessity out of not differing between raster/vector?

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                                          Riverstorm
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                                          @barbudreadmon - That looks amazing! You're amazing!! I very much appreciate the addition and completeness of the geometry information I know you don't need to look inside a DAT to utilize it but I find myself always looking inside DAT's. There is always extraneous information that is useful beyond the core info. needed to build sets.

                                          I did a quick once over and the only thing that flagged for me was aztarac. It's listed video type is raster. I've played it several times and always think of it as a vector game but you never know.

                                          @Ashpool - Yeah that threw me too like LCD, on and on etc. but some actually had an LCD along with the regular screen.

                                          With vector games I basically think--infinite resolution (no pixels). They had a start and end point for each line but not a resolution. You probably know all that though since you been digging through DATs a long time.

                                          Barbudreadmon might know better since emulated vector games truly aren't running on vector monitors for most of us (I would assume). So with that thought they probably needs some type of "boundary" defined with the (pixel) resolution or something to that effect. That's just a guess at best but I know what you mean with it being omitted in MAME. I am curious myself now.

                                          @barbudreadmon - Thanks again cheers to you and the team--we have to get you a beer or two or three or a 6 pack for the amazing emulator and support! :)

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                                            Riverstorm
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                                            Yeah I think they have just been renamed (besides Killer Instinct & Killer Instinct 2). Just a few examples of the short list of 25 comparing the 2021-05-01 to the current DAT.

                                            Old name:

                                            kof98eck20
                                            kof98eckvs
                                            kof99rp2f
                                            umk3pb1
                                            umk3uc
                                            

                                            New name:

                                            kof98eckg
                                            kof98ecky
                                            kof99rp
                                            umk3p
                                            umk3uk
                                            
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