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      dmmarti @Retro Arcade Fan
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      @Retro-Arcade-Fan @pariziv

      I'd love to see his list too!

      I'm always on the lookout for new systems I've never heard of to try and get them running. Being able to emulate using the MAME/MESS core opens up a ton of new (well actually older I guess haha) systems that I have never seen before. Some of those older 70's and 80's computer systems were pretty amazing for their time.

      Here's my working Google document with all of my systems (this is for both RetroPie and my Windows PC list). I use the Attract Mode front-end on both and pretty much have RetroPie launching the same systems (no PS2, Wii, etc of course).

      I try to keep my Google doc updated with new systems I add and usage notes for them.

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mwIjk7TFWoD--7hfiPHCYUxFtIz1yhD8BLtWdQQWwKw/edit?usp=sharing

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        Retro Arcade Fan @dmmarti
        last edited by Retro Arcade Fan

        @dmmarti This is AMAZING! Thank you for sharing such a detailed spreadsheet. I see so many that I don't have on my system. This is going to push my addiction to a whole new level haha.

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          DTEAM @dmmarti
          last edited by DTEAM

          @dmmarti said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @Retro-Arcade-Fan @pariziv

          I'd love to see his list too!

          I'm always on the lookout for new systems I've never heard of to try and get them running. Being able to emulate using the MAME/MESS core opens up a ton of new (well actually older I guess haha) systems that I have never seen before. Some of those older 70's and 80's computer systems were pretty amazing for their time.

          Here's my working Google document with all of my systems (this is for both RetroPie and my Windows PC list). I use the Attract Mode front-end on both and pretty much have RetroPie launching the same systems (no PS2, Wii, etc of course).

          I try to keep my Google doc updated with new systems I add and usage notes for them.

          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mwIjk7TFWoD--7hfiPHCYUxFtIz1yhD8BLtWdQQWwKw/edit?usp=sharing

          @Folly

          Hi Folly, do you think it could be a good idea to put that link (above) in your first post of Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone ?

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            pariziv @Retro Arcade Fan
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            @Retro-Arcade-Fan

            I quickly compared with the list of @dmmarti

            These are the systems I have in addition:

            All-in-1 Handhelds
            Apple - Macintosh
            Arduboy
            Atari - Portfolio
            Classic Handhelds
            Commodore - VIC-10
            JAKKS Pacific - JAKKS
            Konami - Handhelds
            Love
            Lutro
            Microsoft - Windows 3.11
            Python games
            Sega - MyCard
            TecToy
            Tiger Electronics - Handhelds
            Tiger Electronics - R-Zone
            VTech - Socrates
            
            
            Problems:
            Benesse - Pocket Challenge V2 (Black screen)
            Casio - Loopy (corrupted graphics)
            Hewlett Packard - 48GX (need to find a way to load games)
            LeapFrog - Leapster Learning Game System (exception: unimplemented LDB_S 6268 (0x0c group)
            
            
            
            
            
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              Folly @DTEAM
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              @DTEAM said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

              Hi Folly, do you think it could be a good idea to put that link (above) in your first post of Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone ?

              Added.

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                Retro Arcade Fan @pariziv
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                @pariziv When you say "Classic Handhelds" are you talking about Game & Watch?

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                  DTEAM @Retro Arcade Fan
                  last edited by

                  @Retro-Arcade-Fan

                  no, see here for more infos : Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME

                  and

                  Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone

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                    TPR
                    last edited by TPR

                    @Folly So I have ADAM up and running using the Retropie-setup fork and the games seem to load just fine under lr-mess-adamcass - Problem is, TAB does not bring up the MAME/MESS menu like it does in all my other lr-mess cores.

                    Any idea why? I'd like to be able to go in and configure everything but I cannot for the life of me (and now spending some time trying to figure it out) how to get that menu to appear.

                    Any ideas? Thank you.

                    (And yes, I have turned Game Focus both on and off)

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                      duglor @TPR
                      last edited by duglor

                      @TPR said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @Folly So I have ADAM up and running using the Retropie-setup fork and the games seem to load just fine under lr-mess-adamcass - Problem is, TAB does not bring up the MAME/MESS menu like it does in all my other lr-mess cores.

                      Any idea why? I'd like to be able to go in and configure everything but I cannot for the life of me (and now spending some time trying to figure it out) how to get that menu to appear.

                      Any ideas? Thank you.

                      (And yes, I have turned Game Focus both on and off)

                      My mess/mame-apple2gs also doesn't bring one up. I tried.

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                        Folly @TPR
                        last edited by Folly

                        @TPR

                        Not sure why either.
                        Perhaps it's a change in the lr-mess core.
                        Did you update the lr-mess core recently ?

                        Are you able to see if switching "game-focus" works or not ?

                        Do you use a "hotkey enable key or button" ?

                        Can you paste your runcommand ?

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                          TPR @Folly
                          last edited by

                          @Folly Did not update lr-mess as I'm running it with AdventureVision, Astrocade, Ti-99, and Arcadia and it seems to be running just fine with using TAB, but those I did download months ago.

                          I did just download ADAM yesterday, though. It was easy to get up and running and had it going in 5 minutes, but the TAB thing is really strange and not sure why it doesn't work.

                          Here's the runcommand log:

                          Parameters:
                          Executing: /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/adam/retroarch.cfg adam /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS -cass1 "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam/Super Donkey Kong (1984) (Coleco).ddp" --appendconfig /dev/shm/retroarch.cfg
                          [.] parameters dump
                          \t_retroarchbin: /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch
                          \t_messpath: /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so
                          \t_config: /opt/retropie/configs/adam/retroarch.cfg (+ /opt/retropie/configs/adam/retroarch.cfg.add)
                          \t_cfg_directory: /opt/retropie/configs/adam
                          \t_system: adam
                          \t_biosdir: /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS
                          dirname: invalid option -- 'c'
                          Try 'dirname --help' for more information.
                          \t_romdir: /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam
                          \t/tmp/mess.cmd content: adam -rp /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/adam "-cass1" "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam/Super Donkey Kong (1984) (Coleco).ddp"
                          rm: cannot remove '/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam/tmpmess.cmd': No such file or directory
                          rm: cannot remove '/opt/retropie/configs/adam/tmpconfig.add': No such file or directory
                          [.] launching: /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --verbose --config /opt/retropie/configs/adam/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/adam/tmpconfig.add -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam/tmpmess.cmd
                          [INFO] RetroArch 1.8.8 (Git 9552f87)
                          [INFO] Redirecting save file to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam/tmpmess.srm".
                          [INFO] Redirecting save state to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/adam/tmpmess.state".
                          [INFO] === Build =======================================
                          [INFO] Capabilities: NEON VFPv3 VFPv4
                          [INFO] Built: Nov 2 2020
                          [INFO] Version: 1.8.8
                          [INFO] Git: 9552f87
                          [INFO] =================================================
                          [INFO] Loading dynamic libretro core from: "/opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so"
                          [INFO] [Overrides] core-specific overrides found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/MAME.cfg.
                          [INFO] [Overrides] no content-dir-specific overrides found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/adam.cfg.
                          [INFO] [Overrides] no game-specific overrides found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/tmpmess.cfg.
                          [INFO] Config: appending config "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/MAME.cfg"
                          Error opening translation file English
                          Adding monitor screen0 (640 x 480) a:1.333333
                          wp_r80.rom ROM NEEDS REDUMP
                          WARNING: the machine might not run correctly.

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                            TPR @TPR
                            last edited by TPR

                            @Folly Looks like my mess_libretro.so file is from Feb 2021. I'm cautious to update that as all my other emulators seem to work so well unless you think I should update it.

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                              Folly @TPR
                              last edited by Folly

                              @TPR

                              How did you install / what module-script did you use ?

                              You should add code tags around the log in you last post so special chars are displayed properly.

                              Looking at the log I think you should add -ui_active to the runcommand.
                              EDIT :
                              Try to add it before -cass1 and see if that works.

                              My advice is now to stick with the old mess_libretro.so because the newest has a different name mamemess_libretro.so.
                              Updating it will break everything.

                              It's probably best to keep your old image without updating and make a new one later which is totally up to date and using this project :
                              https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-lr-mame-and-mame-standalone

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                                TPR @Folly
                                last edited by

                                @Folly Yep. I read that about the newer version of Mess, which is why I stuck to the older one.

                                I'm using your retropie-setup fork which I have saved in it's own folder on my build and if I need to grab any of the MESS cores, I can easily rename the folder and grab them if I need them.

                                IMG_8103 2.jpg IMG_8102 2.jpg

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                                  Folly @TPR
                                  last edited by Folly

                                  @TPR

                                  Looks like you are using the @valerino fork.

                                  Had a look at my runcommands again.
                                  You should add -ui_active before -cass1 and see if that works.

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                                    TPR @Folly
                                    last edited by

                                    @Folly Awesome. I will try that tonight! Thank you again for the always helpful support!

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                                      TPR @Folly
                                      last edited by

                                      @Folly YOU. ARE. A. STAR!!!
                                      F1A7752A-AC94-427B-A3D1-6D717122F8F3.JPEG

                                      Works great!

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                                        TPR @Folly
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                                        @Folly You wouldn't happen to know how to hide the tape counter would you?
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                                          Folly @TPR
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          @TPR

                                          Nice to hear it's working !

                                          Tape-counter should go away if it's ready loading, or just try to press the "tab" key again.

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                                            TPR @Folly
                                            last edited by TPR

                                            @Folly It does go away once the tape is done loading, I just didn't know if there was a way to make it not appear at all. I tried every display option I could find in the machine and UI settings. If not, it's fine. I can live with it. Happy it is all working!

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