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    • DTEAMD
      DTEAM @JimmyFromTheBay
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      @Folly

      I installed your script on my Pi 5 and installed MAME 0.266 with it. It works wonderfully.

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        Folly @DTEAM
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        @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

        @Folly

        I installed your script on my Pi 5 and installed MAME 0.266 with it. It works wonderfully.

        Is it a 64bits OS or 32bits OS.
        Did you create your own binary or did you use mine ?

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          Folly @JimmyFromTheBay
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          @JimmyFromTheBay said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

          @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

          @JimmyFromTheBay

          If you want to run it then you need to install Bookworm on your PI4/PI5 and install RetroPie on top of it.
          It's advised to use a 64bit Bookworm OS and use the aarch64 binary.

          I can create a new topic about this if needed.

          Anyone : Is there some demand for this ?

          I'm definitely interested, as there's still no "official" Retropie for the Pi5.

          If I have the time then I will have a look.

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            Folly @JimmyFromTheBay
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            @JimmyFromTheBay

            I will try to describe the manual installation over here.

            You can use "Raspberry Pi Imager" from here :
            https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/

            Then I would suggest that you pick "Raspberry Pi OS with desktop (64-bit)"
            With that you will be able to use the PI as regular Desktop computer which makes life more easier.
            You can simply copy and paste from your browser or in your file manager.

            Once your SD card is written you can boot your Pi with it and set your own recommended settings.

            With your browser you then you go to (scroll down to the readme) :
            https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup
            You can simply copy the code pressing this icon.
            copy-icon.png

            Then you open the "Terminal" and paste the code into the terminal ultimately revealing the RetroPie-Setup.
            Before you run the RetroPie-Setup you can add my script by doing :

            wget --backups=1 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scriptmodules-00/supplementary/mamedev.sh -x -nd -np -P ~/RetroPie-Setup/ext/RetroPie-Share/scriptmodules/supplementary
            

            Remember, there are no binaries from RetroPie so everything is installed from source.
            Although the PI5 is quite quick it's still recommended to install the things you only need.
            Go to :

            • Manage packages -> Manage core packages -> Install all core packages

            You start "Retropie" with running emulationstation from the terminal.

            After that you will be able to go and set your joystick settings and ultimately go to my script and install the binaries from within my script.

            Eventually you can go to the raspi-config and set your pi to boot into the terminal by default if you want.
            From there you can boot into the desktop by doing startx or run Retropie with emulationstation.
            I think you can set booting to emulationstation in the retropie_setup if you would want that.
            Personally I would not do that as it will make it more difficult to boot into the Desktop.

            Then if you want you can copy things from you old SD to you new SD with use of an sd->usb converter and copy the files to your new SD.

            Get it ?

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            • DTEAMD
              DTEAM @Folly
              last edited by DTEAM

              @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

              Is it a 64bits OS or 32bits OS.
              Did you create your own binary or did you use mine ?

              64bits OS binary (aarch64) from your script. I did that for MAME 0.266, Lr-Mess 0.266 and Lr-MAME 0.266. Work well with Pi5

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                Folly @DTEAM
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                @DTEAM

                Ok thanks for letting me know.
                You had mentioned 32-bit earlier, that is why I asked.

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                • DTEAMD
                  DTEAM @Folly
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                  @Folly
                  yes, it was for my Pi4 , but I switched for my Pi5 last week. 32 bits is important for Pi 4 and lower with the official Retropie image.

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                    Folly @DTEAM
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                    @DTEAM

                    Ok, got it.

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                    • duglorD
                      duglor @DTEAM
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                      I'd like to play Bubsy in Atari Jaguar emulator Lr-Mess-Jaguar- Help. 2024

                      Hello. I'd like to play Bubsy in Atari Jaguar Emulator. I have the game .j64 and the game zipped as bubsy.zip with that .j64 in it and a folder named bubsy as well with that .j64 in it. I'm trying to cover all bases here.
                      
                      Installed lr-Mess-Jaguar and have regular lr-Mess set for that directory along with the virtual jaguar emulator.
                      
                      I have a bios called jagboot.zip and jagboot.rom is my bios folder.
                      
                      Now....so far i have not been able to run the .j64, the .j64 in the bubsy folder, or the bubsy.zip with lr-mess-jaguar chosen as my emulator. It just kicks me out.
                      
                      Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
                      
                      p.s. btw, all my bubsy names in the folder are lower case.
                      
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                        Folly @duglor
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                        @duglor

                        I am not going to talk about lr-virtualjaguar as that is an other topic

                        For running bubsy in mame or lr-mess with my script you need to install jaguar from my script.
                        Mame needs a bios called jaguar.zip (see in mame-merged) which needs to be in :
                        ~/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
                        Try to get the "original" bubsy.zip file from jaguar.zip (see in mame-sl).
                        Always try with mame-standalone first to see if it works then you know the files are good.
                        (If it doesn't the /dev/shm/runcommad.log is better to reed if mame standalone is used.)
                        Then try lr-mess if it works.
                        If it doesn't then you know it's probably an lr-mess issue.

                        Good luck

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                        • duglorD
                          duglor @Folly
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                          @Folly Thanks!

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                          • DTEAMD
                            DTEAM @duglor
                            last edited by DTEAM

                            Hi @folly, do you think it's possible to use Vulkan on pi5 for MAME standalone?

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                              shift
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                              Hi @Folly, I was testing the Jupiter Ace system (jupace) and I saw that to work correctly the "-ram 32k" parameter must be added, otherwise most of the roms don't work, I'm now using this command line:

                              lr-mess-jupace-basename-32k = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/jupace/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/jupace/retroarch.cfg.basename -S /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/jupace -s /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/jupace -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mamemess_libretro.so 'mame jupace -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/jupace/lr-mess -c -ui_active -ram 32k -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/jupace/  '%BASENAME%''"
                              
                              

                              when you get to the prompt, a precise line must be typed for each game (up to the "." if there is one, the rest are the game controls), for convenience here are those of all the games reported as working:

                              3dmaze		load 3dmaze 3dmaze
                              avoider		load avoider run
                              invader1	load GR load GR load GR load GM load GM load GM z p
                              aceinvad	load graphics gr load run run
                              amce11	
                              acemines	load mines mines
                              acestar		0 0 bload astar 16384 call
                              acevader	load gr load acevaders gr r. Z = left, X = right, M = fire
                              adventa		0 0 bload adva 16384 call
                              aliendef	load defender g
                              amazmaze	load maze g
                              astrian		load Lander run
                              aticraid	load atic go
                              blackisl	load black island
                              bomber		load bomber play
                              breakout	load breakout b. Left = A, Right = L
                              callisto	8930 0 bload callisto
                              cavern		load graphics load run gr run. A = up, Z = down
                              cenipede	load centipede go
                              chase		load chase chase. Cursor keys to move
                              chess		load chess run
                              dodge		load Dodger game
                              ducksht		11272 0 bload dchars load duckshoot d. Fire = Enter
                              firebird	load FIREBIRD run
                              surround	load surround go
                              frogger		load frogger go
                              fungle		load FU run
                              gobbgook	load gobblegook gobblegook
                              grexfrog	load graphics load run grf run
                              guessing	load game game
                              kkong		load CHARACTERS CHARACTERS load KONG run
                              lightrac	load LightRacer run
                              memstars	load run run
                              meteor		load gr meteor load meteor game
                              metracer	load GR load GR load GR load GM load GM z p
                              meteors		load asteroids g
                              micromaz	load graphics load run s run
                              minefld		11272 0 bload mchars load minefield m
                              othello		load othello 11272 0 bload pieces go
                              owler		load owler loading
                              quickdrw	load quick-draw go
                              quickdrp	load Qdraw run
                              robohnch	load robohench g
                              robohunt	load robohunt g
                              sailhorn	load hornpipe hornpipe
                              sambombs	load sam g
                              sokoace		load sokoace play
                              sacemap		load sokoed ed
                              sbattle		load graphics load run gr run. Fire = F
                              startrek	load startrek g
                              sudoku		load sudoku sudoku
                              schess2		load chess run
                              tankbatl	load tankbattle g
                              tetris		load tetris tetris
                              hanoi		load hanoi hanoi
                              turbo		load turbo 0 0 bload track turbo. Left = 5, Right = 6
                              zapem		11272 0 bload zchars load zapem z. Left = 6, Right = 7, 9 = Thrust, 0 = Fire
                              zombies		load zombpot zombpot
                              
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                                Folly @DTEAM
                                last edited by Folly

                                @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                Hi @folly, do you think it's possible to use Vulkan on pi5 for MAME standalone?

                                I don't have much knowledge of that.
                                Looked for some info and it seems it can use vulkan with BGFX stuff.
                                That would mean background and shader stuff.
                                On the stickfreaks website I found some info that it will not work correctly on Bullseye on the pi4.
                                (https://stickfreaks.com/misc/raspberry-pi-4-mame-performance-guide)
                                However for the pi5 this could be totally different.
                                Seems that if the computer has it it will automatically be enabled.
                                However not sure how one can see what is enable.

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                                  Folly @shift
                                  last edited by Folly

                                  @shift said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                  Hi @Folly, I was testing the Jupiter Ace system (jupace) and I saw that to work correctly the "-ram 32k" parameter must be added, otherwise most of the roms don't work

                                  Ok, will do some tests.
                                  If -ram 32k is a good add-on I will add it to the script so it will be installed automatically when installing jupace.

                                  Thanks for the loader commands will have a look at them too.

                                  Edit 1 :
                                  Added the maximum of 48k to jupace when installing by default :
                                  https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/c1d164d7e2b71a11c6a35d969f690fb60482dfac
                                  I tested it with 3dmaze and indeed adding ram works.

                                  Edit 2 :
                                  Loader commands can also be found in the hash table jupace_cass.xml

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                                  • DTEAMD
                                    DTEAM @Folly
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                                    @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                    I don't have much knowledge of that.
                                    Looked for some info and it seems it can use vulkan with BGFX stuff.
                                    That would mean background and shader stuff.
                                    On the stickfreaks website I found some info that it will not work correctly on Bullseye on the pi4.
                                    (https://stickfreaks.com/misc/raspberry-pi-4-mame-performance-guide)

                                    I found this (from 2020)
                                    https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/28362/enhanced-performance-of-mamedev-mame-in-x11/2

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                                      Folly @DTEAM
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                                      @DTEAM

                                      Have read the topic link you proposed.
                                      Was indeed informing but hard to understand how things are really connected to each other.
                                      Seems resolution changes were working better with some drivers in x11 which improved the speed sometimes, right ?
                                      From my own perspective I have also seen these differences sometimes.
                                      Indeed Vulkan was mentioned having a possible impact when enabling BGFX and using the HLSL shaders.
                                      I think the questions would be :

                                      • When are resolution changes active underneath to perform speed improvements in drivers ?
                                        (using x11 or wayland in a desktop environment or not or in both situations and or using older or newer RaspberryPi's)
                                      • When is Vulkan installed and how can we check ?
                                      • Is Vulkan part of the mesa package ?
                                      • What does the mesa package do ?
                                      • When is Vulkan active ?
                                        (using x11 or wayland in a desktop environment or not or in both situations and or using older or newer RaspberryPi's)
                                      • Do we use HLSL shaders in our drivers, for example with the handheld ?

                                      What do you think are these questions correct ?

                                      Edit :
                                      We might find more info over here about mesa.

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                                      • DTEAMD
                                        DTEAM @Folly
                                        last edited by DTEAM

                                        @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                        What do you think are these questions correct ?

                                        Vulkan could be useful for 3D consoles (like Dreamcast) or newer 3D arcade games (like Naomi 2) under MAME standalone. Maybe the results will be disappointing, but it would be good to do the test.

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                                          Folly @DTEAM
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                                          @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                          What do you think are these questions correct ?

                                          Vulkan could be useful for 3D consoles (like Dreamcast) or newer 3D arcade games (like Naomi 2) under MAME standalone. Maybe the results will be disappointing, but it would be good to do the test.

                                          I think there are indeed some drivers that could work faster.
                                          However I don't expect 50 % speed increases.

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                                            Folly
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                                            Script and database are updated to 267.

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