Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition

TPR

@DTEAM How much have you messed around with NUMA? Have you noticed if it has broken anything?

DTEAM

@TPR
No. It’s very good for Pi5. Good performance increase. No update problems for now.. It works on the first try. I recommand to do backup before

It did a test with my Pi4 and it screwed my retropie

TPR

@DTEAM Which install did you use? The rpi-update install or the manual install? I'm referring to the update on this page: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/numa-emulation-speeds-pi-5-and-other-improvements

Also, once it is installed, what's a good game to test to see before/after results?

DTEAM

@TPR
This one

sudo rpi-update pulls/6273

New edit: I think you must have a Pi 5 or a Pi4 8GB 64Bit (Not lower than that for the Pi4) I only do tests on a P5 8GB and a Pi4 4GB. Bad results for my Pi4 , good upgrade for my Pi5

Good games for a test are:
Wild Riders on Naomi 2 (lr-flycast-dev) with Vulkan
God of War (sound quality upgrade) on PS2 (Aethersx2) with Vulkan
Maybe also F-Zero on GameCube

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

@TPR
This one
sudo rpi-update pulls/6273
I think you must have a Pi5 8GB . Not lower than that

Good games for a test are:
Wild Riders on Naomi 2 (lr-flycast-dev) with Vulkan
Good of War (sound quality upgrade) on PS2 (Aethersx2) with Vulkan
Maybe also F-Zero on GameCube

Good to know on the 8gb tip. I don't think I had seen anyone mention that. I'll grab my 8gb Pi 5 and try it now. Any idea why it doesn't work on the 4gb version?

Did you notice any performance increase of God of War? I have mine with the following settings:
EE Rate - 50%
EE Skip - Max
Max Frame Latency: 3.
Bilinear Filtering: Nearest.
Blending Accuracy: Minimum.
CPU Framebuffer: On
Mipmapping Off
Trilinear Off
Disable Depth Support ON

And that makes it run pretty good on a 4gb Pi 5

ExarKunIv

@TPR said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

Any idea why it doesn't work on the 4gb version?

It's a shame that it doesn't. Means a lot of people are not going to be able to use it.
Me including.
Not going to spend more money just for a speed boost. Lol

DTEAM

@ExarKunIv

It works on a Pi5 4GB but not on a Pi4 4GB. I wrote a mistake. I rewrote my previous post.

I didn’t test It on a Pi5 4GB but they say It gives a good boost. For Pi4 4GB , it’s a mess

ExarKunIv

@DTEAM ahh. Ok
Thanks for cleaning that up.
Happy gaming

DTEAM

@TPR said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

Did you notice any performance increase of God of War? I have mine with the following settings:
EE Rate - 50%
EE Skip - Max
Max Frame Latency: 3.
Bilinear Filtering: Nearest.
Blending Accuracy: Minimum.
CPU Framebuffer: On
Mipmapping Off
Trilinear Off
Disable Depth Support ON

Mine:
EE Rate - 100%
EE Skip - Max Underclock
Affinity Control Mode : VU>GS>EE
Max Frame Latency: 2.
Bilinear Filtering: Bilinear (PS2).
Blending Accuracy: Basic .
Skip Presenting Duplicate Frames (on)
Audio: Interpolation Mode : Gaussian
CPU Framebuffer: On
Mipmapping: Automatic
Anisotropic : Off
Trilinear: Automatic
Disable Depth Support (I don't see where it is)

I didn't try CRC Fix Level to agressive for that game, I did that only for Okami (maybe It could be good for God of War)

I use NUMA and my Pi5 is overvlocked. God of War run very fast and well with that setup

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

@TPR said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

Did you notice any performance increase of God of War? I have mine with the following settings:
EE Rate - 50%
EE Skip - Max
Max Frame Latency: 3.
Bilinear Filtering: Nearest.
Blending Accuracy: Minimum.
CPU Framebuffer: On
Mipmapping Off
Trilinear Off
Disable Depth Support ON

Mine:
EE Rate - 100%
EE Skip - Max Underclock
Affinity Control Mode : VU>GS>EE
Max Frame Latency: 2.
Bilinear Filtering: Bilinear (PS2).
Blending Accuracy: Basic .
Skip Presenting Duplicate Frames (on)
Audio: Interpolation Mode : Gaussian
CPU Framebuffer: On
Mipmapping: Automatic
Anisotropic : Off
Trilinear: Automatic
Disable Depth Support (I don't see where it is)

I didn't try CRC Fix Level to agressive for that game, I did that only for Okami (maybe It could be good for God of War)

I use NUMA and my Pi5 is overvlocked. God of War run very fast and well with that setup

That's all great info. Thanks! And what overclock settings are you using and have you found that to have any other issues with other emulator cores?

Also, just to confirm are you on a Pi 5 4gb or 8gb? I have both but just wanting to match what you're doing.

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

This one

sudo rpi-update pulls/6273

So that's what I just did. Did you still have to add numa=fake=4 to your cmdline.txt?

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

I use NUMA and my Pi5 is overvlocked. God of War run very fast and well with that setup

I'm using the following overclock in my config.txt:
arm_freq=3000
gpu_freq=1000
force_turbo=1

and I have the following in my cmdline:
numa=fake=4

And I'm seeing no improvement at all with God of War using your aethersx2 settings. Just trying to figure out what I might be doing wrong here.

DTEAM

@TPR

My overclock settings

# Tell the DVFS algorithm to increase voltage by this amount (in µV; default 0).
# IMPORTANT: See note below
over_voltage_delta=50000

# Set the Arm A76 core frequency (in MHz; default 2400).
arm_freq=3000

# Set the VideoCore VII core frequency (in MHz; default 800).
gpu_freq=1000

and I have the following in my cmdline:

numa=fake=4

I'm not sure you need this if you use

sudo rpi-update pulls/6273

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

@TPR

My overclock settings

# Tell the DVFS algorithm to increase voltage by this amount (in µV; default 0).
# IMPORTANT: See note below
over_voltage_delta=50000

# Set the Arm A76 core frequency (in MHz; default 2400).
arm_freq=3000

# Set the VideoCore VII core frequency (in MHz; default 800).
gpu_freq=1000

and I have the following in my cmdline:

numa=fake=4

I'm not sure you need this if you use

sudo rpi-update pulls/6273

Got it... thanks. Trying now.

DTEAM

@TPR
Also, no turbo

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

@TPR
Also, no turbo

So this is what I have in my config.txt:

# For more options and information see
# http://rptl.io/configtxt
# Some settings may impact device functionality. See link above for details

# Uncomment some or all of these to enable the optional hardware interfaces
#dtparam=i2c_arm=on
#dtparam=i2s=on
#dtparam=spi=on

# Enable audio (loads snd_bcm2835)
dtparam=audio=on

# Additional overlays and parameters are documented
# /boot/firmware/overlays/README

# Automatically load overlays for detected cameras
camera_auto_detect=1

# Automatically load overlays for detected DSI displays
display_auto_detect=1

# Automatically load initramfs files, if found
auto_initramfs=1

# Enable DRM VC4 V3D driver
dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d
max_framebuffers=2

# Don't have the firmware create an initial video= setting in cmdline.txt.
# Use the kernel's default instead.
disable_fw_kms_setup=1

# Run in 64-bit mode
arm_64bit=1

# Disable compensation for displays with overscan
disable_overscan=1

# Run as fast as firmware / board allows
arm_boost=1

# Pi5
kernel=kernel8.img

[cm4]
# Enable host mode on the 2711 built-in XHCI USB controller.
# This line should be removed if the legacy DWC2 controller is required
# (e.g. for USB device mode) or if USB support is not required.
otg_mode=1

[all]

# Tell the DVFS algorithm to increase voltage by this amount (in µV; default 0).
# IMPORTANT: See note below
over_voltage_delta=50000

# Set the Arm A76 core frequency (in MHz; default 2400).
arm_freq=3000

# Set the VideoCore VII core frequency (in MHz; default 800).
gpu_freq=1000

And here is my cmdline:

console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=5ecf2855-02 rootfstype=ext4 fsck.repair=yes rootwait cfg80211.ieee80211_regdom=US

And I'm not seeing any real improvement with anything. I just loaded up God of War and also Radiata Stories and they are both still running sluggish. Any ideas?

DTEAM

@TPR

Strange? Maybe the Bios or the rom

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

@TPR

Strange? Maybe the Bios or the rom

I'm not sure. Everything else seems to be working fine. I would have thought that the NUMA and/or Overclock would have been more of a global thing and I would have seen improvement across the board, but it doesn't look like I am.

TPR

@DTEAM said in Suggestions for ports #3 - Pi5 edition:

@TPR

Strange? Maybe the Bios or the rom

Do I still need this in my config?

arm_boost=1

or should I remove that ?

TPR

@DTEAM So this is interesting. I put the comments for the overclock in a different position in my config. I put them above the [cm4] section and now it's been doing this:

is this normal?