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    MAME ROW #4: 4-D Warriors

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    • dankcushionsD
      dankcushions Global Moderator
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      i've fixed the default controls for american speedway if you update mame2003 from source. i'll update the dev thread later...

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      • Lyle_JPL
        Lyle_JP
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        My feeling is that American Speedway should not even be on the list, due to it's need for analog controls. I had proposed a rule about disqualifying such games, but I guess it didn't get much interest.

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        • cyperghostC
          cyperghost @Lyle_JP
          last edited by cyperghost

          @Lyle_JP Yes and therefore there are two more games on the run! I think the ruleset for the ROW now is good enough and it's always a pleasure to explore new games :)

          That's my personal agreement .... to boldly gamble where no controller has gone broken before!

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          • dankcushionsD
            dankcushions Global Moderator @Lyle_JP
            last edited by dankcushions

            @Lyle_JP said in MAME ROW #4:

            My feeling is that American Speedway should not even be on the list, due to it's need for analog controls. I had proposed a rule about disqualifying such games, but I guess it didn't get much interest.

            what are you talking about? spinner controls work with joystick/dpad just fine in this game with my workaround or fix. in fact, it's arguably easier to play with dpad than a wheel/dial setup.

            very few MAME games have an actual analog requirement, and even they are usually due to bugs with the mapping.

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            • meleuM
              meleu
              last edited by meleu

              OK guys, I've just pick another random number and it is 411. I'll replace American Speedway with this game and we discuss this issue better for the next week.

              I'll do another poll. A huge sorry for the guy that voted on this game... :(

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              • meleuM
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                Info for 411
                Game Name: Depthcharge
                Company: Gremlin
                Year: 1977
                ROM file name: depthch.zip
                BIOS: -

                Wow! What an old game!

                Please vote: http://www.strawpoll.me/11449932

                There was one vote for 4-D Warriors in the previous poll. Hey you that voted, please, do it again!

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                • meleuM
                  meleu @Lyle_JP
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                  @Lyle_JP said in MAME ROW #4:

                  My feeling is that American Speedway should not even be on the list, due to it's need for analog controls. I had proposed a rule about disqualifying such games, but I guess it didn't get much interest.

                  Hey man, I agree with you and I'm really interested on do the things this way. But the compatibility list have no info about this kind of issue. I would filter this if it had this information there.

                  Usually I pick the numbers and write these MAME ROW posts when I'm away from my RetroPie, so I can't test all the games before posting.

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                  • dankcushionsD
                    dankcushions Global Moderator
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                    again there's literally no issue with american speedway. if you have an ipac setup it should already work. if you don't, you need to rebind the left/right keys with the mame TAB menu. it takes 10 seconds...

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                    • mediamogulM
                      mediamogul Global Moderator @dankcushions
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                      @dankcushions said in MAME ROW #4:

                      very few MAME games have an actual analog requirement

                      They're in the minority for sure, but I wouldn't say "very few".

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                      • dankcushionsD
                        dankcushions Global Moderator @mediamogul
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                        @mediamogul said in MAME ROW #4:

                        @dankcushions said in MAME ROW #4:

                        very few MAME games have an actual analog requirement

                        They're in the minority for sure, but I wouldn't say "very few".

                        i mean actually require an analog setup to be playable. most have workable translations to the joystick, etc, programmed into mame. you can configure the sensitivity of this through the TAB menu.

                        i've worked on this stuff quite a lot ;)

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                        • mediamogulM
                          mediamogul Global Moderator @dankcushions
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                          @dankcushions said in MAME ROW #4:

                          i mean actually require an analog setup to be playable. most have workable translations to the joystick

                          Ah, I gotchya. You're also right about 'American Speedway' being perfectly playable. I've been playing it for quite a while before today using digital controls. After you added mouse support, I've even been able to play it with full analog control from the joystick. It's a great game.

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                          • meleuM
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                            Hey guys, I'm sorry for the mess. I'm at work since I started this topic and I'm not able to make any tests here.

                            I decided to delete American Speedway as early as possible to avoid having to restart the poll and committing some injustice with the votes already made.

                            If you agree I'll pick only 2 numbers for the next week and include American Speedway.

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                            • mediamogulM
                              mediamogul Global Moderator
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                              @meleu said in MAME ROW #4:

                              Hey guys, I'm sorry for the mess.

                              Like the man says, there's no problems, only solutions.

                              Depthcharge:

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                              • GtBFilmsG
                                GtBFilms @mediamogul
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                                Space Duel was a minor pain to get running, the 'select' key is mapped to '2' which isn't a mapped key on my cab. I used advmame1. 4 and in the settings (TAB) remapped the select key for just this game only and it now works fine.

                                Just a suggestion if anyone else has a similar issue.

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                                • meleuM
                                  meleu @mediamogul
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                                  @mediamogul I played Depthcharge. I liked it as a history class, but I almost slept while playing... :)

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                                  • GtBFilmsG
                                    GtBFilms @meleu
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                                    @meleu

                                    Yeah, you certainly got good value for your inserted coin back in those days!

                                    I played it until my first ship sank. As you say, interesting, but not exactly riveting!

                                    4-D Warriors was interesting, but as a big Asteroids fan, I had to vote for Space Duel, yeah, I guess Atari were milking the franchise a bit by 1982 (that's when the International Arcade Museum reckons it was released - http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9647)

                                    Edit: Actually no, you are correct, they are wrong - that MCMLXXX on the title screen proves it was 1980, not 1982!

                                    I appreciate their attempts to add a bit more variety with the 2 simultaneous player game, and that odd '1 player with 2 tethered space ships' concept, but I still prefer the simple 1 player, 1 ship option.

                                    Anyway, it gets my vote!

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                                    • obsidianspiderO
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                                      I realize that Depthcharge is from 1977, but did it have sound? Mine doesn't seem to have any.

                                      📷 @obsidianspider

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                                      • meleuM
                                        meleu @obsidianspider
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                                        @obsidianspider said in MAME ROW #4:

                                        I realize that Depthcharge is from 1977, but did it have sound? Mine doesn't seem to have any.

                                        Same here. I think it doesn't have sound.

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                                        • meleuM
                                          meleu
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                                          "4-D Warriors" won

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                                          It doesn't have "continue". So it's a good game to post hi-scores. :-)

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                                          • dankcushionsD
                                            dankcushions Global Moderator
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                                            @obsidianspider said in MAME ROW #4:

                                            I realize that Depthcharge is from 1977, but did it have sound? Mine doesn't seem to have any.

                                            it uses samples

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