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"Kiosk mode" very slow to load!

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    AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
    last edited by 1 Mar 2017, 23:12

    @Ramses Good luck! It's going to be a long night...

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      Ramses @AlexMurphy
      last edited by Ramses 3 Jan 2017, 23:15 1 Mar 2017, 23:14

      @AlexMurphy said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

      @Ramses Good luck! It's going to be a long night...

      Thanks, yep.. but if i do a "search and replace" in every file, i can change every path in few second.. so its not too bad...

      Anyway.. i'll work on that and i'll post the result here

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        Ramses
        last edited by 2 Mar 2017, 18:07

        I have do many more test with that,

        I discover that it took 9 min 30 to boot with the "Kiosk mode" installed.

        But if i go in my \Roms folder and delete "gamelist.xml" from each system folder my raspberry now boot in 40 seconds!

        Look like Kiost Mode dont like the "gamelist.xml" created with "universal XML scrapper"

        I will try to scrap everything with the default emulationstation scrapper to see if it will work better...

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          Jeck11
          last edited by 2 Mar 2017, 18:27

          I didn't see above but forgive me if I missed it. Have you disabled "Save Metadata On Exit" and enabled "Parse Gamelists Only"?

          https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/FAQ#why-does-shut-down-and-reboot-take-ages

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            Ramses @Jeck11
            last edited by Ramses 3 Mar 2017, 18:39 3 Mar 2017, 16:35

            @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

            I didn't see above but forgive me if I missed it. Have you disabled "Save Metadata On Exit" and enabled "Parse Gamelists Only"?

            https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/FAQ#why-does-shut-down-and-reboot-take-ages

            Yes i have played with those setting, here is the result i got:

            BOOT TIME:

            8 min 22 --> save metadata on exit = off parse gamelists only = on
            8 min 25 --> save metadata on exit = off parse gamelists only = off
            9 min 32 --> save metadata on exit = on parse gamelists only = off
            9 min 35 --> save metadata on exit = on parse gamelists only = on

            Here is some other result:
            BOOT TIME

            1 min 30 --> if no game is scrapped (if no picture/description/etc.. is attached to my game)
            50 sec --> With all my library scrapped but NO KIOSK MODE INSTALLED

            So the problem is that KIOSK/KIDS mode dont like when we add picture/description to large game library..

            KIOSK MODE is a very nice feature, but it is too slow to be usable in my situation.. probably because of some option it has: like the posibility to block some game to kids, possibility to set some game in favorite, ETC... And because of those option, the raspbery boot VERRRRRRY SLOWLY. And i dont need all those option, i just want to prevent my friend to acces some menu item (like scrap the game and other).

            So the only way for me to do what i want is to block the entire menu, but if i do that, i will have no way to "shutdown system" i will have to turn power off to do that and this can corrupt my SD card...

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              Rion @Ramses
              last edited by 3 Mar 2017, 16:37

              @Ramses This is more likely a bug. Maybe @Zigurana knows more about this.

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                Jeck11 @Ramses
                last edited by 3 Mar 2017, 16:54

                @Ramses - OK sorry that didn't help. I'm currently using the kids/kiosk package as well but not seeing anywhere near the load times you are. I'm running on a Pi3 with 5k+ games and bootup and shutdowns are <30 seconds.

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                  Ramses @Jeck11
                  last edited by Ramses 3 Mar 2017, 18:50 3 Mar 2017, 17:55

                  @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                  @Ramses - OK sorry that didn't help. I'm currently using the kids/kiosk package as well but not seeing anywhere near the load times you are. I'm running on a Pi3 with 5k+ games and bootup and shutdowns are <30 seconds.

                  Well, i have a pie3b too, but i have 31489 games, and almost all of them have picture/description and everything..

                  ...maybe thats why its so slow..

                  Like i said, if my game is NOT scrapped (no picture/description) it boot very fast in kiosk mode.. The issue is related to the fact that i have a lot of game AND all my game have picture/description in KIOSK MODE

                  If i keep all my image/description and remove only KIOSK mode, it is very fast too (50 sec!)

                  Like i said before: The problem is that KIOSK/KIDS mode dont like when we add picture/description to LARGE (30k+) game library..

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                    Ramses
                    last edited by Ramses 14 Mar 2017, 21:42

                    well, i have do a lot of test to speed-up that in the last 10 days, but the only way i found to be able to have a descend boot speed is to remove games, or dont scrap game....

                    Now i have 17 700 games and it took 2min10 to start ...

                    Does anybody else have experienced this SLOW startup time with LARGE (30k+) scrapped game library in kiosk mode???

                    Or does anybody have found a fix for that?

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                      Jeck11 @Ramses
                      last edited by 14 Mar 2017, 22:18

                      @Ramses - why have so many in your active build? I understand keeping the backups. You could use a ROM cleaner to move the duplicates to another folder then scrap a manageable number.

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                        Ramses @Jeck11
                        last edited by Ramses 15 Mar 2017, 00:52

                        @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                        @Ramses - why have so many in your active build? I understand keeping the backups. You could use a ROM cleaner to move the duplicates to another folder then scrap a manageable number.

                        I had over 30k but i have removed all duplicated and now i'm at 17 700 ..

                        Why i have so many? why not?

                        By the way, this tread is not about the reason why i have a large game library, its about the difficulty for "kiosk mode" to handle large library. And if i just remove 99% of my game, kiosk mode will continue to have difficulty to handle large library and next time someone use kiosk mode with large library same problem will happen.. So its better to find a way to fix that issue in kiosk mode itself than juste deleting all rom games

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                          dankcushions Global Moderator
                          last edited by 15 Mar 2017, 07:27

                          isn't kiosk/kids mode based on an older version of ES? it has had recent(ish) speed improvements that i guess aren't in the kiosk/kids fork.

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                            Zigurana @dankcushions
                            last edited by 15 Mar 2017, 07:53

                            @dankcushions
                            This is true, i am in the process of merging in the latest changes.
                            It will be a while though, as I am going through some medical issues in de family.

                            If tetris has thought me anything, it's that errors pile up and that accomplishments dissappear.

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                            • herb_fargusH
                              herb_fargus administrators @Zigurana
                              last edited by 15 Mar 2017, 13:39

                              @Zigurana take time for yourself mate. RetroPie will be here when you get back ;) wish you and you family well

                              If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                              Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                Ramses @Zigurana
                                last edited by 16 Mar 2017, 00:31

                                @Zigurana said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                                @dankcushions
                                This is true, i am in the process of merging in the latest changes.
                                It will be a while though, as I am going through some medical issues in de family.

                                Ho! Thanks a lot for your answer!

                                Take your time with your family, its not an emergency here! :)

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