Super Advantage Controller - Is It Any Good?

[obsidianspider]

As I play more MAME and Neo-Geo games on my Super Famicom Pi I'm really wanting an arcade-style controller. The Asciiware Super Advantage controller looks really cool, but is it any good?

[obsidianspider]

I'm also thinking of possibly just making my own controller, and based on my experience using a 6-button Genesis controller, I think this action button layout may be "better" for most games. It looks like the Score Master was only offered in Europe.

[herb_fargus]

@obsidianspider what is that monstrosity! I wonder if that would work with the controlblock

[obsidianspider]

@herb_fargus It should, it just plugs in like any other SNES controller. I'm more curious about how the joystick and action buttons feel.

[backstander]

@obsidianspider
I remember the Asciiware Super Advantage controller being a pretty well made controller with good action on the buttons and joystick but the button layout it a little odd:

  Y   X
L   B   A   R

It has probably been close to 20 years ago that I've actually played on one thought.

[obsidianspider]

@backstander What action button layout would you use?

I'm strongly leaning toward

L   X   R
Y   B   A

[backstander]

@obsidianspider

What action button layout would you use?

I vaguely remember having this conversation before somewhere lol
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/40563

I think I'd personally go with something like:

Y   X   L
B   A   R

I'm strongly leaning toward

The Score Master's layout doesn't look like a bad setup but I've never played on one before so I couldn't speak from experience.

[Sano]

The first doesn't seem very good for "Street Figher controls" games...
@backstander I second this layout (maybe excepted for NeoGeo 4 buttons fighting games)

[Sano]

Just in case, I know it's USB and not really retro, but my hori fighting stick mini just does the job, for 30€ :)
The 2 rows of 4 buttons allow to always select a nice mapping, including 4 in-line buttons for Neo-Geo.

[obsidianspider]

@Sano The PlayStation one?

[Sano]

Yes, the one also compatible with PS3 and PS4 :
https://www.amazon.fr/Manette-Fighting-Stick-Mini-pour/dp/B019MMN94A
It's a pretty decent low-price fighting stick, but for occasional arcade use with RPi I found it sufficient.
Of course if you're a pro fighting game player, this won't satisfy you :)
There is no turbo, but it doesn't bother me.

[backstander]

I just noticed @pluger's Retropie Arcade Stick Custom Case
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/88725

And it looks like he's using:

Y   X   R1   L1
B   A   R2   L2

R2 and L2 wouldn't be needed for most of the emulators on RetroPie but could be bond to special functions.

[Sano]

@backstander
It's the layout of most PS3/4 fighting stick (including Hori).
But Retroarch has a native option to switch to

Y   X   R1   R2
B   A   L1   L2

Very useful for street fighter like controls :)