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    FinalBurn Alpha - what's missing besides MK?

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    • matchamanM
      matchaman
      last edited by matchaman

      FBA seems to give a much more solid experience in arcade gaming, emulating pretty much all major 2D titles.

      However, it appears that it's missing Mortal Kombat games and I'm instead using MAME for those.

      So my question is... are there any other major mainstream games of its covered era missing from FBA?

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      • AlexMurphyA
        AlexMurphy Banned @matchaman
        last edited by

        @matchaman Grab the latest FBA set .40 and run a script to compare it to the latest MAME, .184

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        • matchamanM
          matchaman
          last edited by

          That's going to be a TON of titles and definitely not only from the 2D era which FinalBurn Alpha is focused upon.

          I thought about doing the same but with MAME 0.78 (or even 0.37) but a large portion of names have changed completely so it's quite hard to compare.

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          • AlexMurphyA
            AlexMurphy Banned @matchaman
            last edited by

            @matchaman the rom names should be the same. puckman.zip for example, has never changed the rom name despite the contents changing from version to version of mame / fba.

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            • dankcushionsD
              dankcushions Global Moderator @matchaman
              last edited by

              @matchaman many. FBA started with a focus on shoot-em-ups and fighting games. look into classic 70s/80s arcade games and FBA starts to fall short. i don't believe it supports any vector games (asteroids, etc), for example. it also supports no 3d games as far as i'm aware.

              you could put the respective compatibility lists into excel and run a simple comparison to find out what's missing.

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                alrdtakn1
                last edited by

                I would say the two that I am missing the most would be primal rage and killer instinct. I would love to play the arcade versions of both of these. Don't think they'll ever make it to fba though.

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                • DarksaviorD
                  Darksavior
                  last edited by

                  FBA is also missing the optimizations of some older games:P
                  Rtype leo, cadash, ninja warriors, xmen, bucky o hare, to name a few run much faster on mame 2003.
                  The missing games are just too many to list here. You'll have to compare on your own from compat lists.

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                  • EvertE
                    Evert @alrdtakn1
                    last edited by

                    @alrdtakn1 agree, Mortal Kombat, Primal Rage and Killer Instinct on FBA is all I'd wish for.

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                      prican25
                      last edited by prican25

                      there is a dev working on the driver for the MK games but there hasn't been much of an update on it but he's also working on KI for FBA.

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                      • GreenHawk84G
                        GreenHawk84
                        last edited by

                        Wow I wonder if Mortal Kombat 2 and Ultimate MK3 will get proper emulation through FBA?

                        I would be elated.

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                          thedeathstar
                          last edited by

                          If there are working versions for MAME, why is it important that they work for FBA?

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                          • SanoS
                            Sano
                            last edited by

                            Not playing on mame either AFAIK, but I'm craving for Naomi games.
                            Marvel vs Capcom 2, I miss you :'(

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                            • SanoS
                              Sano
                              last edited by Sano

                              Aaaaand, yes, I know, even if it were correctly emulated, it probably wouldn't run on a RPi3 :'(

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                              • GreenHawk84G
                                GreenHawk84 @thedeathstar
                                last edited by

                                @thedeathstar because those versions have issues. Mame2003 has a huge sound problem and speed is OK but not great. FBA is just a better emulator and someone could possibly get MK running even better than current RPi Mame.

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                                  alrdtakn1
                                  last edited by alrdtakn1

                                  Fba isn't a "better emulator". It does play some things faster and smoother, however, it isn't designed to be as "accurate" as mame is. I like Fba and prefer using it to mame on a lot of things because that "accuracy" is sometimes lost on me. I don't care if a sprite on one stage loads incorrectly as long as the entirety of the game is playable without obvious problems I'm happy. That being said I am content playing the MK games on mame, sound glitches and all (which is why it is listed as non-functional in most lists for mame; once again accuracy) I know I'm in a small percentage but I'd love to play some arcade version primal rage. None of the console versions hold up. I don't that a raspberry pi 3 is to underpowered to do it if it was done in Fba, but I could be wrong.

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                                  • DarksaviorD
                                    Darksavior @alrdtakn1
                                    last edited by Darksavior

                                    @alrdtakn1 FBA is more accurate since the emulation is recent and not from 2003. That can be a bad thing if it makes the games slower. It's why I didn't care to jump for joy when the sega system16 games we're added. Too slow. Another example, the konami 4player games and a few others were made unplayable on my 1ghz pi2 when fba2012 was updated to "lr-fbalpha". Neogeo (and cps2 i think), struggled a bit here and there on mame2003 with an oc'd pi2, but perfectly fine on latest fba. On a pi3 you won't notice but it's nice to know so I won't produce more heat than I already am. I don't have an emulator preference since the compatibility is all over the place. I need to use two fba emulators and two mame emulators to play what I want. Scroll up to my previous post for more examples of mame2003 being faster.

                                    I believe there's a bounty for someone to fix the audio bugs in the mk games in mame2003.

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                                    • GreenHawk84G
                                      GreenHawk84
                                      last edited by

                                      I play almost everything on FBAlpha with only a couple games on Mame2003. I am using a standard RPi3.

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