FBA vs. MAME
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@cosmo0 said in FBA vs. MAME:
Can we just say NeoGeo games are better with FBA "by default" ? Or is it more case-by-case ?
i would guess that both mame2003 and fba do neogeo perfectly, but fba supports the full catalog plus hacks (i believe mame2003 doesn't have all the KOF games, for example), so i just use that.
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@thelostsoul I thought this thread was about "best system", not "working system" ? For games that work on both FBA and MAME, to determine which one has the best emulation ?
Because if it's just to list games that work in one but not the other, I already have these: games working in FBA but not MAME2003 and games working in MAME2003 but not FBA.@dankcushions yeah it looks like MAME2003 doesn't have KOF2003/2003, Metal Slug 4/5, Samurai Shodown 5, and SNK vs Capcom (among a bunch of prototypes, bootlegs and demos), but MAME2003 has a very small number of clones that FBA doesn't.
So I'm guessing "all NeoGeo games are best used with FBA" can be used as a general statement. -
@cosmo0 my bad, I forgot what about this thread was. I'm just curious. how do you guys test both versions and determine which works better?
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@cosmo0 Neogeo, cps1-2 are best on lr-fbalpha. I'm not sure if the minor sound bugs in Kizuna Encounter and maybe others were ever fixed in lr-fbalpha2012 but I retired my pi2 to bother with that older emulator.
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rtype.zip works (for me, at least - see 'discussion' earlier) best in mame2003.
tapper.zip (Budweiser version - the one and only) works best in mame2010. In fact, it's the only version I ever got working.I don't understand that you say these games are missing on the lists. My lists above contain many of these games, and they're based on @Pussyfoot 's lists.
I also use fba generally for NeoGeo games. It just seems to work all the way for me.
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I remember reading fba was the recommended neogeo emulator for speedrun, i guess it means it is supposed to be the most accurate for neogeo.
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@andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:
tapper.zip (Budweiser version - the one and only) works best in mame2010.
All Bally Midway MCR System titles, including 'Tapper', should now be fully functional through lr-mame2003 as well thanks to this recent update. AdvanceMAME will run them as well. I love 'Tapper'. It makes the player deal with multitasking in such a fun and addictive way that it almost feels like a falling block puzzle game.
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@cosmo0 said in FBA vs. MAME:
yeah it looks like MAME2003 doesn't have KOF2003/2003, Metal Slug 4/5, Samurai Shodown 5, and SNK vs Capcom (among a bunch of prototypes, bootlegs and demos),
Some of these are now in mame2003-plus. Testers very welcome.
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@andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:
I don't understand that you say these games are missing on the lists. My lists above contain many of these games, and they're based on @Pussyfoot 's lists.
I didn't see your lists... :( I only saw UDB23 Excel file...
Thanks, I'll make sure to update my list for any missing game :)
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@thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:
@cosmo0 my bad, I forgot what about this thread was. I'm just curious. how do you guys test both versions and determine which works better?
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@thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:
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mame2003 has has sound timing update fixes please re check any games that the was issues with on the sound sound speed . Mame2003+ will have the right tempo set as for robocop and other games
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So, new list for still-missing classics, based on the lists found here:
mame: https://pastebin.com/2UTySn6L
fba: https://pastebin.com/tUMb5CsR
advancemame: https://pastebin.com/2eaqNxGFI will try to test these games.
@thelostsoul : I have no idea how I'll declare one emulator the best one. I'm guessing it's a matter of speed and bugs first, then personal preference.rom title 720 720 Degrees (rev 4) 1943kai 1943 Kai: Midway Kaisen (Japan) airwolf Airwolf arknoid2 Arkanoid - Revenge of DOH (World) bionicc Bionic Commando (Euro) bublbobl Bubble Bobble (Japan, Ver 0.1) fantzn2 Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (MC-8123, 317-0057) gng Ghosts'n Goblins (World? set 1) gradius4 Gradius IV: Fukkatsu (ver JAC) gt2k Golden Tee 2K (v1.00) invadpt2 Space Invaders Part II (Taito) jojoba JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Mirai e no Isan (Japan 990927) marble Marble Madness (set 1) mk4 Mortal Kombat 4 (version 3.0) mshu Marvel Super Heroes (951024 USA) nbapbp NBA Play By Play (ver JAA) offroad Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road orunners OutRunners (World) pbobble4 Puzzle Bobble 4 (Ver 2.04O 1997/12/19) polepos Pole Position (World) polepos2 Pole Position II (Japan) rampart Rampart (Trackball) rbtapper Tapper (Root Beer) roadblst Road Blasters (upright, rev 4) rtype R-Type (World) sf2 Street Fighter II - The World Warrior (910522 etc) sf2ce Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition (street fighter 2' 920513 etc) tron Tron (8/9) turbo Turbo (program 1513-1515) vanguard Vanguard (SNK) wbml Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043) xevious Xevious (Namco) -
Edit: Figured it out. I was using a split set instead of non-merged.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
vspu.zip from FBA 0.2.97.42 does not work in lr-fbalpha.
The DAT file for .43 is available; have you checked the ROM with it ?
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@udb23 I edited my post once I figured out it was because I grabbed it out of a split set.
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Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?
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@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.
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@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:
Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?
Please feel free to report the issue with Darius Gaiden in mame2003's github repository if you like. I don't think I've seen that submitted as an issue and it may be possible to fix by backporting from a later mame version.
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@pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:
Also, where is the config to identify which games I am using MAME 2010? I know the Rampage games need 2010.
I put all of my roms in the arcade folder and use 2003, 2010, and fba to run them. I found that the emulators.cfg file under configs/all contains the info on which emulator is being used for which particualr rom if it is anything other than the default for that folder.
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@barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:
@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.
In the text files linked in this thread, it's listed as best in fb alpha, so that needs to be updated.
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