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    • mediamogulM
      mediamogul Global Moderator @AndersHP
      last edited by mediamogul

      @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

      tapper.zip (Budweiser version - the one and only) works best in mame2010.

      All Bally Midway MCR System titles, including 'Tapper', should now be fully functional through lr-mame2003 as well thanks to this recent update. AdvanceMAME will run them as well. I love 'Tapper'. It makes the player deal with multitasking in such a fun and addictive way that it almost feels like a falling block puzzle game.

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      • markwkiddM
        markwkidd @cosmo0
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        @cosmo0 said in FBA vs. MAME:

        yeah it looks like MAME2003 doesn't have KOF2003/2003, Metal Slug 4/5, Samurai Shodown 5, and SNK vs Capcom (among a bunch of prototypes, bootlegs and demos),

        Some of these are now in mame2003-plus. Testers very welcome.

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        • cosmo0C
          cosmo0 @AndersHP
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          @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

          I don't understand that you say these games are missing on the lists. My lists above contain many of these games, and they're based on @Pussyfoot 's lists.

          I didn't see your lists... :( I only saw UDB23 Excel file...

          Thanks, I'll make sure to update my list for any missing game :)

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          • thelostsoulT
            thelostsoul @thelostsoul
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            @thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:

            @cosmo0 my bad, I forgot what about this thread was. I'm just curious. how do you guys test both versions and determine which works better?

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              grant2258 Banned
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              @thelostsoul said in FBA vs. MAME:

              s and de

              mame2003 has has sound timing update fixes please re check any games that the was issues with on the sound sound speed . Mame2003+ will have the right tempo set as for robocop and other games

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              • cosmo0C
                cosmo0
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                So, new list for still-missing classics, based on the lists found here:
                mame: https://pastebin.com/2UTySn6L
                fba: https://pastebin.com/tUMb5CsR
                advancemame: https://pastebin.com/2eaqNxGF

                I will try to test these games.
                @thelostsoul : I have no idea how I'll declare one emulator the best one. I'm guessing it's a matter of speed and bugs first, then personal preference.

                rom title
                720 720 Degrees (rev 4)
                1943kai 1943 Kai: Midway Kaisen (Japan)
                airwolf Airwolf
                arknoid2 Arkanoid - Revenge of DOH (World)
                bionicc Bionic Commando (Euro)
                bublbobl Bubble Bobble (Japan, Ver 0.1)
                fantzn2 Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (MC-8123, 317-0057)
                gng Ghosts'n Goblins (World? set 1)
                gradius4 Gradius IV: Fukkatsu (ver JAC)
                gt2k Golden Tee 2K (v1.00)
                invadpt2 Space Invaders Part II (Taito)
                jojoba JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Mirai e no Isan (Japan 990927)
                marble Marble Madness (set 1)
                mk4 Mortal Kombat 4 (version 3.0)
                mshu Marvel Super Heroes (951024 USA)
                nbapbp NBA Play By Play (ver JAA)
                offroad Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road
                orunners OutRunners (World)
                pbobble4 Puzzle Bobble 4 (Ver 2.04O 1997/12/19)
                polepos Pole Position (World)
                polepos2 Pole Position II (Japan)
                rampart Rampart (Trackball)
                rbtapper Tapper (Root Beer)
                roadblst Road Blasters (upright, rev 4)
                rtype R-Type (World)
                sf2 Street Fighter II - The World Warrior (910522 etc)
                sf2ce Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition (street fighter 2' 920513 etc)
                tron Tron (8/9)
                turbo Turbo (program 1513-1515)
                vanguard Vanguard (SNK)
                wbml Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043)
                xevious Xevious (Namco)
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                  sub_atomic
                  last edited by sub_atomic

                  Edit: Figured it out. I was using a split set instead of non-merged.

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                  • UDb23U
                    UDb23
                    last edited by

                    @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

                    vspu.zip from FBA 0.2.97.42 does not work in lr-fbalpha.

                    The DAT file for .43 is available; have you checked the ROM with it ?
                    .43 FBA release notes mention that ROMs have been synced with newer Mame sets.

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                      sub_atomic @UDb23
                      last edited by

                      @udb23 I edited my post once I figured out it was because I grabbed it out of a split set.

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                        sub_atomic
                        last edited by

                        Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?

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                          barbudreadmon @sub_atomic
                          last edited by

                          @sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.

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                          • markwkiddM
                            markwkidd @sub_atomic
                            last edited by

                            @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

                            Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?

                            Please feel free to report the issue with Darius Gaiden in mame2003's github repository if you like. I don't think I've seen that submitted as an issue and it may be possible to fix by backporting from a later mame version.

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                            • LoggaheadL
                              Loggahead @Pussyfoot
                              last edited by

                              @pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:

                              Also, where is the config to identify which games I am using MAME 2010? I know the Rampage games need 2010.

                              I put all of my roms in the arcade folder and use 2003, 2010, and fba to run them. I found that the emulators.cfg file under configs/all contains the info on which emulator is being used for which particualr rom if it is anything other than the default for that folder.

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                                sub_atomic @barbudreadmon
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                                @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                @sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.

                                In the text files linked in this thread, it's listed as best in fb alpha, so that needs to be updated.

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                                  Deltax5
                                  last edited by Deltax5

                                  I am using mame 2003 at the moment but some games on FBA. I can say FBA is actually a better emulator if you put in accuracy I don't remember what the setting it called. Thou you kinda need your pi overclocked quite a bit for neogeo games and down to run good.
                                  I don't know much about mame settings what you guys say?

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                                    barbudreadmon
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                                    @andershp There was some changes to the gyruss mcu (music core unit) with the new release, let me know if it fixes your "fuzzy" sound issue. The hiscore seems to work properly too.

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                                      sub_atomic
                                      last edited by

                                      Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

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                                        barbudreadmon @sub_atomic
                                        last edited by

                                        @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                        Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

                                        No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.

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                                          sub_atomic @johnodon
                                          last edited by sub_atomic

                                          @johnodon

                                          arcade_nbbatmanu = "lr-mame2003" should be arcade_nbbatman = "lr-mame2003"

                                          @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

                                          No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.

                                          Ah, got it. Works much better now, thanks!

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                                          • cosmo0C
                                            cosmo0
                                            last edited by

                                            I have tested my list under FBA and MAME 2003. I haven't tested under Advance MAME, because I don't have a keyboard, so I can't setup the controls.

                                            I have updated my lists accordingly. I used FBA as "best" as long as it didn't have obvious problems (slowdowns or crashes). I'm assuming the games that don't work properly (or at all) in either FBA or MAME2003 probably work on AdvanceMAME.

                                            name fba mame2003
                                            1943kai ok -
                                            720 - ok
                                            airwolf ok ok
                                            arknoid2 way too sensitive a bit too sensitive, not quite playable
                                            bionicc ok ok
                                            bublbobl ok ok
                                            fantzn2 - black screen at launch
                                            gng ok ok
                                            gt2k - -
                                            gradius4 - -
                                            offroad - ok
                                            jojoba ok -
                                            marble - ok
                                            mshu ok ok
                                            mk4 - so slow it makes the system unresponsive
                                            nbapbp - -
                                            orunners - broken display, screen stuck on top left
                                            polepos - ok
                                            polepos2 - ok
                                            pbobble4 parent crashes - pbobble4u is slow ok
                                            rtype ok ok
                                            rampart - ok
                                            ramprt2p - ok
                                            roadblst - ok
                                            invadpt2 - ok
                                            sf2 ok ok
                                            sf2ce ok ok
                                            rbtapper - stuck on system check, makes the sytem unresponsive
                                            tron - no control is set up, not even credit
                                            turbo - ok
                                            vanguard - ok
                                            wbml ok ok
                                            xevious - ok
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