N64 crashes after 10 min
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@endersenigma said in N64 crashes after 10 min:
@dankcushions
Do you have any input? I have tried everything I know how to try. Awaiting new power supply as we speak, but it doesn't act like any power supply issue from my experience.like i said before, if the overclocks are all removed, and it's not a power issue, a software bug can be reported, but my issue with this is that if there's a bug then everyone should be getting it, since we're (mostly) all on the same hardware. i won't have a chance to test n64 on a pi3 for a while, but unless someone else is getting this issue then i would suspect power is the culprit, as there's not much else left!
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@quicksilver
You guys are all using n64glide right? -
@endersenigma said in N64 crashes after 10 min:
@quicksilver
You guys are all using n64glide right?Yes
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@quicksilver
new power supply arrives tomorrow, will update. -
@quicksilver @dankcushions
New power supply, same problem.
I am just going to use a different emulator, even if they look worse maybe they will at least be playable. Cheers!Thanks for all the help.
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@endersenigma which power supply did you go with?
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@quicksilver
The one you linked earlier in the post. -
@endersenigma strange that we should have the same issue and I was able to resolve mine. I wish I could think of something else for you to try.
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I was having problems with freezing (although not specifically with N64). But I was getting bad power at the wall and it was corrupting things.
I tried everything else and at the end of my ropes a quality power conditioner inline saved the day. Just a suggestion.
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@quicksilver
I just stopped using glide, some games don't work but it's better than nothing. -
I have the same issue. Sometimes it freezes and sometimes I can wait out the glitching till I can play again. If I wait it out I can play for as long as I want.
I think i heard something about a memory system in the pie being unable to clear so it fills up in 15 minutes and then glitches out the system.
So i would lean towards software issue. However it seems way too complicated to fix. So my whole plan is to get it to make it through the glitch so I can keep playing.
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@bobberella what is your setup? What case, power adaptor, overclocked? I had this issue but was able to resolve it. Also are you using mupen64-glide from binary or source?
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Alright, so I thought my problem was solved but today I have had a handful of instances where the graphics glitched out while using mupen64-glide. It happened on several games but only after about 10-20 minutes of gameplay. In this case it did not lead to a freeze but after a few seconds of glitched out shaky graphics the game would suddenly become playable again. Not sure where to go from here.
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I have a case/fan/heatsink(with thermal paste) that idles. Idle temperature is around 37 C and after an hour 42 C. I am overclocked at 1.44Ghz.
I thought it might have been caused by the SDRAM frequency and over voltage SDRAM settings so I messed with that. It seem to fix the glitches and replace them with freezes.
I have had this glitch at almost every overclock setting and I would assume bone stock... too lazy to waste 15 minutes finding out.
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@bobberella I have tested at stock clock speeds and still get the glitched out graphics after about 10-20 mins. If you are getting straight up freezes, then I suspect your overclocks aren't stable. 1.44ghz is insanely high, I would guess most pi3s aren't stable at that speed. Mine personally isn't stable above 1350mhz. Just because your pi will boot at 1.44ghz doesn't mean it's stable.
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Yeah. I have 3 Pies and they all glitch at 10 minutes. The 1.44Ghz one im working on is the fastest... possibly too fast.
The others are stable at 1.4Ghz. All you have to do is goid all of the warrenties. My GF has played more than 100 hours on each of the 1.4Ghz ones.
However... im getting this glitch so I started to tinker with the SDRAM. The 1.4Ghz ones will make it past the glitch and continue on but the 1.44Ghz one is a little more weird. Its the only pi i could boot at 1.75 GHz.
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@bobberella said in N64 crashes after 10 min:
My GF has played more than 100 hours on each of the 1.4Ghz ones.
irrelevant unless that was n64. each emulator taxes the hardware in different ways.
like i said before, for us to get any meaningful bug reports we people to remove ALL their overclocks, use a stock image ideally, update to the latest mupen64plus via source, and see if the issue is still happening. also test with different videoplugins (gles2n64, etc).
If the issue happens to everyone with that scenario, then there's obviously some kind of issue in gliden64 (memory leak?) which can then be taken further. right now we have nothing.
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@dankcushions I have tested at stock speeds and the glitch does still occur for me. It has only occurred using glide. It has never happened for me with the other plugins. When I have some time later today I will test using a fresh stock rpi image and will test mupen64-glide from binary and source.
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@dankcushions said in N64 crashes after 10 min:
irrelevant unless that was n64. each emulator taxes the hardware in different ways.
Agreed, did you get it to run at 1750MHz? I had an issue that went undetected for months. It only crashed in one scenario when installing packages. Buzz pointed out it might be worth looking at my overclock. When I did some "real" stress testing it was revealed my overclock settings were unstable.
Here's a great Overclock testing link. It takes time to get through all the tests but you can almost guarantee it's stable.
I think also I read somewhere where they had the Pi 3 SDRAM overclock settings in the raspi-config at 500MHz for Turbo but found occasional corruption on SD cards so they bumped it to 600MHz. I am guessing it was some correlation with the other settings.
At work when we have issues with firewalls we strip everything down to basically an all/all--any scenario in both directions with no AV, IPS, IDS, proxies, web filtering, SSL inspection, etc. all off. I think Dank is correct to strip it down. Your overclocks seems exceptional and potentially unstable. If it was a global problem more people would probably be reporting the issue.
It has only occurred using glide.
What game? I have a Pi setup I could run a test to see what happens here using Glide.
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@riverstorm I personally have had it happen on diddy kong racing, battle tanx, road rash 64 and some others. Doesnt happen at a specific spot but seems to occur after about 10-20 mins of continuous gameplay. Basically what happens is the screen gets shaky and all the graphics get all jumbled up. I will try and post a pic next time it happens. I thought at one point I had the issue solved when I removed my pi from my nespi case but now the glitch still happens occasionally (though not as bad as before). Like I told DankCushions I will try a fresh stock image and test to see if I can get it to occur. Hopefully that will narrow down whats causing this.
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