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    The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    • quicksilverQ
      quicksilver @Jiryn
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      @Jiryn http://blog.flirc.tv/index.php/2019/06/24/new-pi-4-cases/

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        Cornervizion @quicksilver
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        @quicksilver I did attempt it back on my Pi2 but this came at the cost of performance. I might try it again shortly on the Pi3.

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        • JirynJ
          Jiryn
          last edited by Jiryn

          https://i.imgur.com/LYwHilL.png
          Here's my current case, yea I couldn't do a fan and heat sinks in it.. but I love the form factor and design.

          Those ones you linked look great!

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            dd0ck
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            with the Gigabit ethernet, is having big ROMs (PSX, Dreamcast, etc.) stored on a NAS an option? These little SD cards can only hold so much...

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              ScottyPsArcade
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              Killer Instinct 1 and 2?! I'll buy just for that... haha

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              • JirynJ
                Jiryn @dd0ck
                last edited by

                @dd0ck said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                with the Gigabit ethernet, is having big ROMs (PSX, Dreamcast, etc.) stored on a NAS an option? These little SD cards can only hold so much...

                I got a 500GB in mine, was on sale a few months ago for $50 during an amazon flash sale.

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                • deepthawD
                  deepthaw
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                  I wonder how feasible running 8/16-bit systems at 4K with crt shaders so we can get non-artifacted scanlines (2160 = 240 * 9, while 1080 = 240 * 4.5).

                  I want silly things.

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                    Sandman614
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                    Does this mean no more ghost Bluetooth input??

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                    • simpleethatS
                      simpleethat @Headcrab
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                      @Headcrab said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                      I've read in a technical pdf that : the Ethernet packets do not need to be repacked into USB packets anymore, thus latency and processing overhead are decreased on the Pi 4

                      Let's see if this makes even a tiny difference in applications like moonlight or SteamLink.

                      Aside from the increased emulation abilities I'm going to need one because of this alone for a new pi-hole

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                      • deepthawD
                        deepthaw @simpleethat
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                        @simpleethat said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                        @Headcrab said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                        I've read in a technical pdf that : the Ethernet packets do not need to be repacked into USB packets anymore, thus latency and processing overhead are decreased on the Pi 4

                        Let's see if this makes even a tiny difference in applications like moonlight or SteamLink.

                        Aside from the increased emulation abilities I'm going to need one because of this alone for a new pi-hole

                        I'm a bit depressed that the weak link for me in running Steamlink will be my PC rather than my Pi.

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                        • cyperghostC
                          cyperghost
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                          Got the Pi4 a power switch now?

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                            shadow
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                            How much do you want to bet that with proper cooling the cpu can reach 2 ghz. Which depending on how strong the GPU is, could be just under the requirements for gamecube.

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                            • quicksilverQ
                              quicksilver @shadow
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                              @shadow Tom's hardware's review seemed to imply that 1.75ghz is currently the limit determined by the firmware. But perhaps that will change

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                              • EcksE
                                Ecks @Barcrest
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                                @Barcrest said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                @frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.

                                His video is here for those that are interested.

                                Just watched that video now and seeing that the GPU is 256mb gives better hope that more emulation might work a lot better and also holding off on buying one right now until there is a new image for RetroPie for this cause i would really like to do some emulation testing on it especially for the more demanding arcade games out there because it would be interesting to see if some games like Tekken Tag Tournament and Tekken 4 work on it as well as other games that you had to overclock the Pi 3B+ for it to work .

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                                • mituM
                                  mitu Global Moderator @Ecks
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                                  @Ecks A Pi3 already works with GPU memory set to 256mb, that's not something new. The increased GPU memory (if I understand correctly, limited to 1Gb) would help the front-end more (Emulationstation/Pegasus/Attract-Mode) than the emulation.

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                                    evipaul @shadow
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                                    @shadow Unless somebody also writes ARM drivers for those external GPUs, and drivers for the Pi to support eGPUs, and probably a bunch of other things that would be a crapton of work creating software that doesn't currently exist, to create a "solution" that costs 10x more, but works really poorly, then I'm not sure we'll be seeing that anytime soon.

                                    ETAPrime on Youtube has the LattePanda running with eGPUs. It's neat if you happen to have the stuff sitting around and want to do it. That's about it.

                                    @quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                    @shadow Tom's hardware's review seemed to imply that 1.75ghz is currently the limit determined by the firmware. But perhaps that will change

                                    A quick Googling suggests ARM was claiming a 28nm A72 core could hit 2.5 GHz. ARM seems to me to be notoriously optimistic in their PR regarding new cores. I couldn't find any actual clockspeeds in shipped products in my brief search. And, of course, those would be in different SoCs, containing different other components, with different frequency/voltage curves than the RPi4's, so it wouldn't be directly comparable. I'll probably look more later.

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                                    • BuZzB
                                      BuZz administrators @dd0ck
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                                      @dd0ck I already use a NAS with my older RPI. CD games are not all loaded at once so are fine.

                                      To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                        Marcel @Jiryn
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                                        @Jiryn You'll have to dremel your case already for the Pi 4, so it's just a little more dremeling for this setup. :)

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                                        • paffleyP
                                          paffley
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                                          1gb, 2gb or 4gb memory best for emulation? (I ask this as is there a limit to what emulation can use?)

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                                          • thelostsoulT
                                            thelostsoul @paffley
                                            last edited by thelostsoul

                                            @paffley Emulators itself don't need much system RAM, so increasing it won't help. More memory can help with other things like the frontend (EmulationStation). My advise is to get 2gb if you really want to use it for emulation with RetroPie only, or just the 1gb if you can't justify the 28% increase in price, while the performance in emulation don't change. But having more (4gb) won't hurt other than your pocket.

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