The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

paffley

I was also thinking more on the lines of N64 performance, I didn't want to purchase the 2gb version if the 4gb would be much better for this system (wait 5-6 days for 4gb release). But from what I gather its more the n64 emulation correct? than the power of the unit itself? :)

willd

Excited about this.

Thak

Someone mention Sega model 1&2, IIRC that model1 (or 2 that where my memory loose accuracy) run really poorly on pi3 (daytona usa was like 7-10fps with some glitch) any chance, on paper, of an improvement?

dankcushions

@Thak said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

Someone mention Sega model 1&2, IIRC that model1 (or 2 that where my memory loose accuracy) run really poorly on pi3 (daytona usa was like 7-10fps with some glitch) any chance, on paper, of an improvement?

on what emulator? if it was MAME, then the CPU is 2-4 times the performance of the pi3, depending on the situation, and MAME is CPU based, so assuming that is the bottleneck, i would expect a good improvement, but it's probably still going to be glitchy. maybe a later version of MAME is viable. really need a specialist model 1&2 emulator becoming open source... doubtful.

Thak

@dankcushions here the link

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111384

dankcushions

@Thak it does seem like it's abandoned unfortunately. known glitches in basically every game. so yeah, glitches will remain but i would expect better performance.

Thak

@dankcushions damn... That's too bad :'(

Lyle_JP

I would really rather have a full sized HDMI port than 2 micro ports, but other than that, this looks really exciting. 4k hardware h.265 decoding is something I've wanted for awhile, and the memory options are great. Can I assume this will run much cooler than the 3b+?

thelostsoul

@Lyle_JP said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

Can I assume this will run much cooler than the 3b+?

Hard to say (from my perspective). If you aim at same performance, then it will be cooler for sure. If you run it at its full potential, I would assume its a bit hotter, because its consuming more power. Here is a full review and first look, testing the heat too: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html

Yes, this board gets warm, warmer than its predecessor. Thermal images mirror what we experienced; the areas of the board near the CPU get really warm, not just the top of the processor itself. The Pi 4 board reaches a toasty 74.5 degrees Celsius (166 degrees Fahrenheit). That’s not enough for a serious burn, but kids especially should be sure to pick up the Pi by its sides only. The top surface of the Pi 3 B+ is much cooler, maxing out at 62.5 degrees Celsius (144.6 degrees Fahrenheit).

zortnac

Looking forward to being able to turn on the rewind feature for PS1, which, on my 3B+, slows things down to a stutter. I've been wondering if it had more to do with processor limitations or memory bandwidth limitations?

Something to look forward to down the line. I just finished putting together a retropie this spring, so I really should just enjoy it for a while, at least long enough for case designers to release updates for the new form factor :-)

simpleethat

I understand that all the ports aren't in the same spot but is the board the same size and are the 4 screw holes in the same locations? I run my pi-hole in a stacked pair of cases and it would be nice to just remove the old board and replace it with a new one when I upgrade that particular pi.

Actually that would be useful for at least one of my Retropie builds as well

thelostsoul

@simpleethat The website says they managed to make it compatible, but not 100%. The place for the LAN connection is changed, so they could optimize it more.

simpleethat

@thelostsoul the case it would be going into is four standoffs and a top and bottom plastic board. That sounds pretty promising

retropi19

hi is it worth it to take the 2gb version? i mean does it perform faster in anything over the 1gb

here in greece in the official distributor it cost 60usd including shipping while the 1gb version cost almost 49usd with shipping

mitu

@retropi19 the front-end or memory hungry games can benefit from the VRAM increase.

retropi19

from the virtual ram you mean?

mitu

@retropi19 VRAM = Video RAM, the amount of memory reserved for the GPU.

retropi19

in general i mean not only in retropie any benefit from the extra ram?

mick

Hey guys, the hypetrain is definitely rolling! I wonder if emulation station does support 4k resolution already?

Also maybe this is exactly the perfect time to get an all new UI for ES. For me it looks and feels pretty old compared to UI like PS4, Netflix, Apple TvOS etc.

thelostsoul

@retropi19 Outside of emulators, there can be some huge benefits, depending on the operating system and applications. If you want to use the Raspberry Pi 4 as a simple low power general computer to browse the web, then the web browser can make good use of the RAM.