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    The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    • GreyAreaUKG
      GreyAreaUK
      last edited by GreyAreaUK

      Came here to post exactly this :)

      Ars Technica review: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/faster-raspberry-pi-4-promises-desktop-class-performance/

      (ok, not exactly a review, more of an overview)

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        spud11
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        Another review:
        https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html

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          shadow
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          As of now Retropie does not run on the rpi 4, but I am sure within the next 2-4 weeks a build will be up for the rpi4

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          • ClassicGMRC
            ClassicGMR
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            Great... more money I don't have for something I don't need and no one except me will use... yet I cannot resist!!!

            THANKS A LOT!!! 😂😂

            Growing older is mandatory. Growing up is optional!
            Enjoy the ride!

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              shadow @ClassicGMR
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              @ClassicGMR well the real thing is how far can we push this new board. If it can only improve stuff like mame then dont buy it, but if it does improve dreamcast, and n64 to a decent degree, then buy it when you have the money to do so

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              • ClassicGMRC
                ClassicGMR @shadow
                last edited by

                @shadow said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                @ClassicGMR well the real thing is how far can we push this new board. If it can only improve stuff like mame then dont buy it, but if it does improve dreamcast, and n64 to a decent degree, then buy it when you have the money to do so

                Pfft your logic isn't strong enough to overcome my "SHINY GOTTA HAVE IT" mentality! I spurn you! 😂😂

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                Enjoy the ride!

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                  shadow @ClassicGMR
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                  @ClassicGMR do what you want (also I will be buying this board because SHINY)

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                  • RanmaR
                    Ranma
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                    While I am incredibly excited at this news, I'm also kinda glad they are out of stock at the moment too. I think for our purposes there's no urgent reason to upgrade yet - but it's definitely going to be coming. I imagine as above, some improvement to N64 and Dreamcast, which is about as far as I'd want mine to go anyway. I lost interest in gaming after Sega left us.

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                    • sirhenrythe5thS
                      sirhenrythe5th
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                      For me it would be great if MAME should improve, Arcade is the moste important Thing for me.
                      SEGA Titan running fine probably? That would be like XMAS to me :D
                      But of course Dreamcast would be fine too.

                      However...i am on your side ClassicGMR.
                      I would even buy it if they only changed the color of the power LED :D :D

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                      • DarksaviorD
                        Darksavior
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                        I'm probably going to get the 2GB version to hopefully improve the boxart loading on the pegasus-frontend.

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                        • sirhenrythe5thS
                          sirhenrythe5th
                          last edited by

                          I will catch the 4GB Version.
                          It is not that expensive and maybe useful later.

                          btw: whats about that?

                          •VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x

                          i am not that techi - is this something that could be important too?

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                            shadow @sirhenrythe5th
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                            @sirhenrythe5th I think that they are trying to hide how similar the gpus could be between the 3 and the 4

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                              mechafatnick
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                              Does anyone know what this means for Saturn support now that Yabasanshiro runs quite acceptably on a mid-range Android phone?

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                              • sirhenrythe5thS
                                sirhenrythe5th
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                                I doubt it will be improved too much.
                                I have a similar experience with GameCube (Dolphin) on my Android-Phone.
                                The Games run pretty good (Xperia 5 Premium)!

                                But i guess you cant really compare it to a Pi, better CPU, much better GPU, and of course better supported emulators.

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                                • dankcushionsD
                                  dankcushions Global Moderator
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                                  @hiulit said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                  VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x

                                  this is HUGE news I think. it should mean fullspeed and accurate emulation for:

                                  • n64
                                  • dreamcast
                                  • saturn

                                  and better emulators for

                                  • playstation (beetle-hw)

                                  all of these required GLES 3.x for full support. GLES 2.x was always holding pi3 back, for the most part.

                                  i should think the new CPU should allow for full speed current MAME also, but we will see...

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                                  • shavecatS
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                                    Crazy ! olalala
                                    Im waiting for reports ! ;))

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                                    • ledowL
                                      ledow
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                                      @sirhenrythe5th said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                      VideoCore VI

                                      It's supposed to have h265 acceleration, but whether that's native or not, I can't see a benchmark for. Handy for, say, media centres. They say both HDMI can be 4K... and I can't see anything about VideoCore VI / Broadcom BCM2711 anywhere except in Pi4 announcements... maybe it's a slight graphics upgrade?

                                      Certainly nothing hugely attractive and ground-breaking. The only thing of interest was the overclocking which should take you beyond what the Pi 3 can manage (according to one article I read), but it doesn't seem humungous.

                                      Hopefully with USB-C the damn connectors won't be changing much again, and we'll be able to buy almost USB-C and it'll have enough oomph to power the Pi 4. I know that USB-C powerbanks are already a thing, so that would be nice.

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                                      • hooperreH
                                        hooperre
                                        last edited by hooperre

                                        @quicksilver says wait for Raspberry Pi 4 to build a handheld. Day later Raspberry Pi 4 drops. You’re a prophet!

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                                        • sirhenrythe5thS
                                          sirhenrythe5th @dankcushions
                                          last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                                          @dankcushions said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                          @hiulit said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                          VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x

                                          this is HUGE news I think. it should mean fullspeed and accurate emulation for:

                                          • n64
                                          • dreamcast
                                          • saturn

                                          and better emulators for

                                          • playstation (beetle-hw)

                                          all of these required GLES 3.x for full support. GLES 2.x was always holding pi3 back, for the most part.

                                          i should think the new CPU should allow for full speed current MAME also, but we will see...

                                          WOW! that sounds too good to be true! :O
                                          Thanks for info darkcushions.

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                                          • ledowL
                                            ledow
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                                            Not if the graphics updates are just MESA updates (which they appear they could be according to the github commits). Unless it's accelerated GLES 3.x, then it's just the same hardware trying to do more work.

                                            It provides 3.x "capability", i.e. it can take 3.x GL instructions, but that doesn't mean it's automatically faster than just doing the 2.x equivalent unless it has specific hardware acceleration for it.

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