Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?
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@RedMarsBlueMoon You should open a new topic and provide the info about your system, as detailed in https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first.
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to summarize the topic: there is no advantage in buying a Pi4 instead of a Pi3 concerning MAME atm, right?
When i read that games from the 70 & 80s run stuttery (w/ shaders) than you could even say: it got worse :)
All the games that did not run before with a Pi3 (Cave SH3, Sega Titan, 3D-Games,...) dont get any boost with the Pi4, so it seems that we have to wait for a fork like "MAME2019++++, super-optimized for the Pi4" or something like that :)-- Retro-Achievements Username: SirALX --
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@sirhenrythe5th said in Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?:
to summarize the topic: there is no advantage in buying a Pi4 instead of a Pi3 concerning MAME atm, right?
No, that's not true.
When i read that games from the 70 & 80s run stuttery (w/ shaders) than you could even say: it got worse :)
Not remotely true.
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@sirhenrythe5th said in Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?:
to summarize the topic: there is no advantage in buying a Pi4 instead of a Pi3 concerning MAME atm, right?
You can run a few more games full speed on fb-neo now like the taito f3 games (elevator action returns, Ninja Baseball Batman, etc) and some cave games (dodonpachi3 dai ou jou)
When i read that games from the 70 & 80s run stuttery (w/ shaders) than you could even say: it got worse :)
While the gpu drivers aren't finished (that's why there's screen tearing), it's considerably better than the pi3b+. I don't believe you can run any new shaders the pi3b+ can't support, but it's not a downgrade. For instance, I use the pegasus-frontend, and it's much smoother than a pi3b+. The dreamcast emulator redream runs just about all games at full speed with frame drops and it's exclusive to the pi4 because of its better gpu.
All the games that did not run before with a Pi3 (Cave SH3, Sega Titan, 3D-Games,...) dont get any boost with the Pi4, so it seems that we have to wait for a fork like "MAME2019++++, super-optimized for the Pi4" or something like that :)
They got a boost. Just not to a point where they're in a playable form. Like, some cave games run full speed on mame2016 until you get explosions and action which drops it to the 40s sometimes and the scratchy audio doesn't help the experience. I'm not a dev so I have no idea if these later mame's (2015,2016, etc) can get any optimizations.
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@Darksavior said in
You can run a few more games full speed on fb-neo now like the taito f3 games (elevator action returns, Ninja Baseball Batman, etc) and some cave games (dodonpachi3 dai ou jou)
I´ve got pretty good performance with DoDonpachi 3 (&2) using FBNeo on my Pi3B+ (no overclocking).
But to be honest: there is a difference using HDMI vs. AV-Output.
When i run DDP2 & DDP3 on the HDMI (55" Bravia) you recognize stuttering - running on the CRT ...fine!
I am playing the Taito F3-Games with AdvanceMame since years, they also run well using this emulator.I am pretty sure that all of these games will run perfect on HDMI too now with the Pi4B - but this is something that does not bother me as a CRT-Retronerd :D :D
I was more interested in the suppport of later MAME-Versions and of course more games.
I guess some more patience will be the right way ;) -
@sirhenrythe5th said in Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?:
I´ve got pretty good performance with DoDonpachi 3 (&2) using FBNeo on my Pi3B+.
Same here, not the first time i read this recently so i have been wondering if some people aren't abusing the "cpu clock" core option again. I hooked that setting into our pgm driver just a few months ago in a failed attempt to reproduce original cabinet's slowdowns (there is still something missing, probably some kind of interrupt we aren't emulating properly), so it might be worth mentioning that downclocking this would actually provide a game experience closer to the original cabinet.
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@barbudreadmon Can you recommend a particular value (range) of that setting?
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I kinda just want to play Sunset Riders 2 player, since it lets you pick your characters.
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@Jiryn which also runs perfect with AdvanceMame as well as with FBNeo on a Pi3B+ (AFAIR it was allready great playable on the Pi2B).
FBNeo offers even cheevos for that game :)-- Retro-Achievements Username: SirALX --
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Sounds like a plan!
What's a good rom set for those?See, I'm just trying to find the perfect, all around fit for the Pi 4 4GB, so I can just play 90% of the games without issue of emulator or issues.
Already slightly disappointed that it's not as big of a leap as I would have hoped on other consoles.
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@sirhenrythe5th
Which Advance mame did you use?.94, 104 or 3?
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@Jiryn i always use the latest version, so i did start with 0.94 but use 3.9 at the moment ;)
The Romset required for AdvanceMame is 0.106. -
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Thank you!
it says .94 for the base, I didn't know which to grab. -
@Jiryn it is the package named just "AdvanceMame" - without version number.
This one is the current release (v3.9). -
@sirhenrythe5th said in Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?:
@Jiryn it is the package named just "AdvanceMame" - without version number.
This one is the current release (v3.9).Now I am wondering if I did something wrong.
Installed Advance Mame, started it up.... looked amazing... but for some reason my controller stopped working. It wasn't registering any of my inputs.SN30 Pro+ in Xbox/Windows mode.
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@Jiryn did you configure your controls in the TAB-Menue by mapping them under "configure input (general)"?
I also use 8BitDo Pads (but in Android-Mode) -
@Jiryn You mean not ever, or suddenly after they worked in AdvMAME?
If the former, it's like @sirhenrythe5th said, because AdvMAME is not part of the RetroArch/LibRetro framework where all emulator cores share the same configuration. See the Docs about AdvMAME for a little more info.
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@Darksavior A fixed mame2010 core has been uploaded here:
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/26035/pi4-mame2010-crashing-on-tab-menu-inputs/42
With the fixed core, mame2010 no longer crashes when accessing the tab menu and no longer crashes due to "illegal instruction" in some games. With this, it is a quite usable core por the pi 4. -
@janderclander14 said in Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?:
@Darksavior A fixed mame2010 core has been uploaded here:
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/26035/pi4-mame2010-crashing-on-tab-menu-inputs/42
With the fixed core, mame2010 no longer crashes when accessing the tab menu and no longer crashes due to "illegal instruction" in some games. With this, it is a quite usable core por the pi 4.@sirhenrythe5th said in Which Mame is suggested for the a Pi 4 with 4GB of Ram?:
@Jiryn did you configure your controls in the TAB-Menue by mapping them under "configure input (general)"?
I also use 8BitDo Pads (but in Android-Mode)It's the first time I've ever installed Advmame, so I didn't know I'd need to do additional configuration
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@Jiryn But you got it working now?
Hint: if you map "Cancel GUI" to "select" + "start" you can exit the games like you are used to with the lr-emulators ;)
Hint2: if you furthermore want to get rid of the exit-menu, set "safe_exit=0" in the AdvanceMame-config-file.
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