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      Zering @Folly
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      @Folly PC98 is a bit tricky to set up. Let me know how you get on!

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        AdamBeGood @Zering
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        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @Folly PC98 is a bit tricky to set up. Let me know how you get on!

        I am interested in PC98 now, as a result of Rude Breaker. Not sure I have the appetite just yet to get involved - I'll tinker with X68000 for a bit longer.

        Here are some fun exclusive (I think) X68000 games that I've found so far:

        Die Bahnwelt - Top Down Dungeon Shooter, with RPG bits
        Knight Arms - Space Harrier-alike and side-scrolling shooter
        Metal Sight - Space Harrier-alike, it was in fashion then :p
        Zugya - Top Down Wrap-around Shooter

        I can't get Neural Gear to react to any controls, which is irritating. I think that might be an exclusive also. If you fancy trying to get it to work, please do.

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          Zering @AdamBeGood
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          @AdamBeGood I'm having problems getting any PC98 games to work since this morning mysrlf, I'll have to reinstall. Rude Breaker is well worth it.
          Thanks for the suggestions! Zugya is great fun! Very simple but extremely well executed. I couldn't get neural gear to react to my controls either. After Burner II is the same. My guess is they require some specific X68K peripheral that just isn't emulated currently.

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            AdamBeGood @Zering
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            @Zering Oh I mentioned Aquales in a previous thread didn't I? That is worth a look. SIde scrolling Mech Game.

            Buster is quite fun as well, a cute platformer (although the music goes quiet occasionally for me).

            That is annoying on Neural Gear, I might keep it on the Pi just in case a future update fixes it. Good luck fixing your PC98!

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              Zering @AdamBeGood
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              @AdamBeGood I'm trying Aquales now. It's the same developpers as Geograph Seal and Jumping Flash. Looks cool.
              The music cutting out I think has to do with the X68K which could only play so many sounds at one time. Some games like Chourensha disguise it much better than others.
              Did you try R+R in the end?

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                AdamBeGood @Zering
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                @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @AdamBeGood I'm trying Aquales now. It's the same developpers as Geograph Seal and Jumping Flash. Looks cool.
                The music cutting out I think has to do with the X68K which could only play so many sounds at one time. Some games like Chourensha disguise it much better than others.
                Did you try R+R in the end?

                Your sound theory could be it, that might make sense.

                Only to see if the game worked... I need to play R+R and Chourensha.

                I've heard good things about Etoile Princess also, just trying that now. I worry the Japanese content may be prohibitive, it's an Action RPG. Looks great though - massive sprites!

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                  Zering @AdamBeGood
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                  @AdamBeGood I'm kind of at a loss with Aquales. I'm stuck under a platform with nowhere to go. Are you supposed to be able to switch between weapons? I can only use the grappling hook. The game looks and sounds great though.
                  You may want to try Mad Stalker. It had versions on PC Engine and PS1 but I think the X68000 game is excellent, although the music does cut out often.
                  I'll try Etoile Princess now.

                  Edit : Etoile Princesse is great, the combat is fun. But it does seem fairly unfriendly to English players.

                  @Folly How did you get Castlevania 68K to work? I have no video and my controls won't respond.

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                    AdamBeGood @Zering
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                    @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @AdamBeGood I'm kind of at a loss with Aquales. I'm stuck under a platform with nowhere to go. Are you supposed to be able to switch between weapons? I can only use the grappling hook. The game looks and sounds great though.
                    You may want to try Mad Stalker. It had versions on PC Engine and PS1 but I think the X68000 game is excellent, although the music does cut out often.
                    I'll try Etoile Princess now.

                    Edit : Etoile Princesse is great, the combat is fun. But it does seem fairly unfriendly to English players.

                    @Folly How did you get Castlevania 68K to work? I have no video and my controls won't respond.

                    Castlevania worked fine for me - although I do get a Menu at the start, in which I have to select X68000 out of three options. I have the .dims in an M3U, and run the game through that, I don't know if that makes a difference?

                    Oh, and I'll have a look at Aquales.

                    Edit: I have Mad Stalker, I'll give it a go now.
                    Further Edit: I love it! Once I'd worked out some moves: Down Down + Button for Dragon Punch, Forward Forward + Button for Slide Attack, Hadouken + Button for Gun.

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                      Zering @AdamBeGood
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                      @AdamBeGood I figured it out in the end, I had to wait for a long musical cue to end.
                      Those three options are internal X68000 sound, MT32 and SC55.
                      That game is spectacular by the way, although unfortunately I've ran into a pretty bad glitch on the raft in stage 2 that forced me to reload.

                      Edit : I knew you'd enjoy Mad Stalker! And the best thing is the other versions of the game are different enough to warrant a playthrough.
                      Did you try Genocide?

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                        AdamBeGood @Zering
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                        @Zering I'll look at the other Mad Stalkers then!

                        I've had a quick look at Genocide, but haven't played it through at all. It looks cool.

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                          Folly
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                          @Zering @AdamBeGood

                          Have the PC-88 and PC-98 up and running.
                          PC-88 was a pain in the ass with the BIOS.
                          (searching, checking checksums, renaming)
                          (still missing FONT2.ROM and FONT3.ROM, but it works without)
                          Seems that the retropie docs are a bit outdated with the filenames.

                          You can have the same problem with th PC-98 if you don't find the good files though. But I was fortunate enough.

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                            Zering @AdamBeGood
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                            @AdamBeGood The sequel is excellent.

                            @Folly Excellent! What games did you try?

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                              Folly @Zering
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                              @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @Folly Excellent! What games did you try?

                              On the PC-88 : 1942
                              On the PC-98 : Yume no Sei (13cm)

                              They were just a quick test.
                              Have to wait for the better ones. :)

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                                Zering @Folly
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                                @Folly The PC88 has this really strange game called Wibarm that is worth a look. Otherwise, Dragon Slayer 1 and 2 are fun!
                                On the PC98 I can't recommend Rude Breaker enough. Flame Zapper Kotsujin and Rusty are also very good.

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @Zering
                                  Thanks, will try these.

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @Folly Having said this, Dragon Slayer 2's definitive version can be found on the MSX1 (the MSX2 is inferior, weirdly), with a smashing score by Yuzo Koshiro!

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                                      Folly
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                                      @Zering

                                      wibarm asks for a data disk. how do i do that ?

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                                        Zering @Folly
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                                        @Folly if I recall, you need to go into subsystems and follow all the menus to load all the discs at once.

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                                          Folly @Zering
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                                          @Zering

                                          I just have one disk.

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                                            Zering @Folly
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                                            @Folly I'll look into it now.

                                            Your rom is wrong. You should have a game disk and a user disk.

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